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autoplicity has the best price at 96.74 a strut and has 13 in stock... only one shock in stock but at 73.27 its worth cheching on a back order if you want to do all 4. if you are just doing a front jobbie, then i dont think youre gonna beat that. they arent free shipping, but youll have to find them at 110 each at free shipping to still break even.

Starquest, the whole $25 to redo the front seemed sketch as hell to me too. whos to say they dont get it right then charge me the 150. sure its a good price, but shady none-the-less. Pungo Off Road does them more often, and was at 150 for all 4.

I am active duty military, so i decided to call the base 5 miles from my house and for $5 an hour i can have access to a fill set of someone elses fully organized tools, an air compressor with air tools if needed, a lift and a wall mount and a c clamp style spring compressor. best of all there is another dude there to ask for a second pair of hands since my 100lb wife wont be the most helpful at heavy lifting.


im going to try and see if i cant get the rear shocks in friday after work using jackstands in the driveway or sat before the hobby shop opens at 10. that way i can measure the lift (if any on the rear) to estimate the height i will use on the front.

i have watched the hell out of theyou tube videos for pulling the strut since thats the part that isnt in the instructions with the struts, and it seems very straight forward. and i made sure that when i got my 5100s the struts had instructions, since my shocks had none. but the only things that come in that box are a nut and washer, everything else is re-used from the old strut.

so i think i have decided to do it myself having access to the tools for cheap, but im going to print out as much info as i can to be safe. have you heard anyhting about torque on those nuts for the ball joint or sway arms? all the videos use impact guns, so that means, get it on there 1/4 turn past as tight as you can, but didnt know if anyone here knew.
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I wonder if maybe the shop that quoted you $25 for the redo thinks that the struts are adjustable without removing them? They certainly are not, lol. I don't see any need to have to adjust them anyway. There are enough pics of third and fourth gen trucks at the various settings to look at and make your decision. Most folks seem to go with the highest setting which is 2.8" on the fourth gens. I have also seen a few go with the next lowest setting, or 2.1". I decided which setting I wanted and put the snap ring in that groove myself. That way when I took them to the shop I didn't have to worry about them screwing it up, lol.

If you have access to that array of tools and have done your homework (which it sounds like you have) then I bet you can pop them in with no problem. Update and post some pics when you get it done!

Oh yeah, as for the rears....I'm not certain but I was under the impression that you didn't even have to jack up the rear to change them? Also, on my third gen the rear 5100s provided exactly zero lift.
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yeah... either way i didnt get the warm and fuzzy from them. So, since i have found access to a base hobby shop with all the goodies. i am going to do it myself Sat.

im going to put in the rear shocks take a measurement, then shoot at the front height. if its that bad, the second time you do it is always faster anyhow. i will try to get pics up as soon as i can get it alligned and its sunny out.
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I am looking at the Bilstein 5100 kit on downsouthmotorsports.com
It includes 2 front 5100 that are adjustable and 2 rear 5100 stock replacements to compliment. The price is only $360 w/ free shipping. Does anyone know if the rear 5100 help at all to keep the rear of truck from sagging the bed is loaded or when towing minor loads.

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I am looking at the Bilstein 5100 kit on downsouthmotorsports.com
It includes 2 front 5100 that are adjustable and 2 rear 5100 stock replacements to compliment. The price is only $360 w/ free shipping. Does anyone know if the rear 5100 help at all to keep the rear of truck from sagging the bed is loaded or when towing minor loads.

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I have not gone mine in yet so cannot comment on the sag.
Im sure it will still sag on heavy load. Small/minor loads, doubt it.
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Unfortunately, having them in front and rear, i can attest, there is no height difference in the rear, only the front.

as far as payload thats not how shocks (or struts work). they, hence the term "shock absorbers" absorb the initial impact going over bumps. so they solely affect ride condition, or in a performace application can take a higher amount of shock before compressing keeping your cars frame parallel to the road in a sharp turn. the bilstein 5100s are in fact hand compressable, meaning unless you are built like my wife you can compress them by hand.

payload is affected by your progressive rate coils. so if you want to affect the rear sag loaded, you can try and find stiffer coils, or get a coil spacer, to hike up uranus.

the bilsteins are a performance/off road application, not really a payload or towing enchancing application.
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Unfortunately, having them in front and rear, i can attest, there is no height difference in the rear, only the front.

as far as payload thats not how shocks (or struts work). they, hence the term "shock absorbers" absorb the initial impact going over bumps. so they solely affect ride condition, or in a performace application can take a higher amount of shock before compressing keeping your cars frame parallel to the road in a sharp turn. the bilstein 5100s are in fact hand compressable, meaning unless you are built like my wife you can compress them by hand.

payload is affected by your progressive rate coils. so if you want to affect the rear sag loaded, you can try and find stiffer coils, or get a coil spacer, to hike up uranus.

the bilsteins are a performance/off road application, not really a payload or towing enchancing application.
I couldn't have explained this any better.
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The shops I talked to recommend them but after I found out they only work on 4x4's I went with the daystar and I went with daystar which gave me a great level on my 2wd. I wanted a 4x4 but the used prices on them were too high for something I wouldn't really use much but there are soo many better lifts and level kits. I figure I will just do some bilstein hd shocks and struts later. I have to say if I had the 4wd I would have used them I have always had adj coildovers on my cars more for lowering but being able to adj to the height you want it what makes them great.
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itsreece....thanks for the awesome explanation. I hadn't thought about it that way but that makes perfect sense.
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The shops I talked to recommend them but after I found out they only work on 4x4's I went with the daystar and I went with daystar which gave me a great level on my 2wd. I wanted a 4x4 but the used prices on them were too high for something I wouldn't really use much but there are soo many better lifts and level kits. I figure I will just do some bilstein hd shocks and struts later. I have to say if I had the 4wd I would have used them I have always had adj coildovers on my cars more for lowering but being able to adj to the height you want it what makes them great.
RyanJM, got pics of your level?
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