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Gauze type filters(K&N) let more dirt through than paper but still filter well, and they flow the best.
Paper filters(Stock) flow decent and are very good at keeping dirt out.
Foam filters(UNI) flow decent and filter extremely well(when oiled).

Realistically you will never have issues with premature wear from a K&N but it is a fact that more crap gets through them.
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Yep, another oil debate. Read a few biased reports, copy and paste a few paragraphs, or just claim to be an expert because you have been changing air filters on trucks for 35 years. Please don't forget the fact that more filtration means less airflow, more filter changes, and if you watch those vacuum commercials they tell you that a vacuum with a bag will be 50% clogged after the first use so you may want to carry a couple dozen new filters with you to change out every couple hundred miles. LOL. More graphs needed. I guess I gave up on all of that nonsense since all my trucks last as long as I needed them to. I don't keep them for the million mile mark and I doubt most on here will.
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Each type has it's purpose. Some people don't really understand that and choose a certain filter for the wrong reasons.
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Dodge dealerships carry 2 brands
their own product with a paper filter, use it & toss it
& K&N air filter, it is washable & reusable
i have 2 of them, i wash one & while it is drying, i install the 2nd one
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Yep, another oil debate. Read a few biased reports, copy and paste a few paragraphs, or just claim to be an expert because you have been changing air filters on trucks for 35 years. Please don't forget the fact that more filtration means less airflow, more filter changes, and if you watch those vacuum commercials they tell you that a vacuum with a bag will be 50% clogged after the first use so you may want to carry a couple dozen new filters with you to change out every couple hundred miles. LOL. More graphs needed. I guess I gave up on all of that nonsense since all my trucks last as long as I needed them to. I don't keep them for the million mile mark and I doubt most on here will.
Conventional wisdom tells you that, that is the case but it's NOT the case with oiled gauze filters.

Paper filters, yes your comment is correct.

Oh and BTW, this is not another oil debate...

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That actually is true though, oiled gauze filters let more through than paper filters.
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I have always thought k&n was garbage, but i call bs on amsoil being worse than k&n.
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Who said amsoil is worse?

If you're judging by that graph, that graph only ranks the filters based on "accumulative dirt capacity" which I guess is just how much dirt they can hold. IMO that is not a good ranking of "best" and "worst" filters. I'd look at airflow and how much dirt gets through. Doesn't really matter though, they will all do the job.

It'd be like rating mpg's of a truck: 15.17, 15.21, 15.33, 15.65 mpg, They are all basically the same. It's not like one is 9mpg and one is 33mpg.
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Conventional wisdom tells you that, that is the case but it's NOT the case with oiled gauze filters.

Paper filters, yes your comment is correct.

Oh and BTW, this is not another oil debate...

Not sure who is not getting who but more filtration(paper) means less airflow. Oil gaused less filtration more air flow is what I tried to say and by oil debate I say it's one in the same. It's a debate with who thinks what is best with every answer getting longer and longer. Same Same. Fun read though and I must admit I get sucked into every one on a few different forums.
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Not sure who is not getting who but more filtration(paper) means less airflow. Oil gaused less filtration more air flow is what I tried to say and by oil debate I say it's one in the same. It's a debate with who thinks what is best with every answer getting longer and longer. Same Same. Fun read though and I must admit I get sucked into every one on a few different forums.
Most high quality paper filters have TWICE the surface area of a cheaper K&N. More surface area allows more air flow. I have used oiled filters, the quailty varies greatly. The Airaid oiled filter is my choice, is twice as thick as most others.
Most Diesel engine warrentys will be voided using a K&N.
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