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Old 08-11-2012, 01:20 AM
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I like turtles... You guys seem to be forgetting... K&N sticker adds 15 HP. You guys must not be putting yours on the back window???
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Just my opinion, but I just put a volant intake with the donaldson filter, and a 14" Magnaflow muffler on the same day. Butt dyno right off the bat noticed, lighter throttle application all around, and after 3500rpm to shifting at 5500, the truck feels noticably more peppy, just a butt dyno comparison, but love how it sounds, and feels, and I noticed that the torque management is not as intrusive as once, before. I couldn't even chirp the tires originally, now I get a good squak off the line with a quick blip of the throttle, as of last, week, it would not do that!

I do notice I am on the gas more, but I have gotten the same mileage since last tank of gas. So no improvement in mileage, my fault for sure, but I would definately do it again. Very happy with my results.

I could be wrong, and it could all be in my head, but I have modded just about every vehicle I have ever bought, and have seen results at the track, that compare with what I have expected. Usually just a .1 to .2 second improvement in the 1/4 mile, but that is at least a whole car length faster at the end of an expressway ramp, or the difference of a win at the track! (these results are of typical intake and catback modifications only!)
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All this is based on "IF" the stock airbox is restrictive. But at what RPM?
Crusing along at 65mph the biggest, and you can not change it, restriction is the butterfly in the throttle body. Its barely cracked open, so you are no where near the flow capacity of the stock system. That being said, if you are on the loud pedal alot, a more free flowing CAI "could" provide more usable HP, IF the engine physically could pump more air thur it. But that would take bigger cam, better flowing exhaust and most probably bigger throttlebody opening. Everything has to work as a package or it won't work like it should. Not trying to start any kind of a arguement here, but have been playing and learning for many years, never have seen one item bolted on a engine with no other modifications and it run noticeably better.
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All this is based on "IF" the stock airbox is restrictive. But at what RPM?
Crusing along at 65mph the biggest, and you can not change it, restriction is the butterfly in the throttle body. Its barely cracked open, so you are no where near the flow capacity of the stock system. That being said, if you are on the loud pedal alot, a more free flowing CAI "could" provide more usable HP, IF the engine physically could pump more air thur it. But that would take bigger cam, better flowing exhaust and most probably bigger throttlebody opening. Everything has to work as a package or it won't work like it should. Not trying to start any kind of a arguement here, but have been playing and learning for many years, never have seen one item bolted on a engine with no other modifications and it run noticeably better.
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To the guy that asked about the K&N drop-in, the best feature of that mod is replacing a disposable paper filter with a washable oiled fabric one.
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OK not to get off topic but I was wondering what you guys think of the drop in K&N filters? I had one on my 98 Dakota and I had no complaints. Just wondering what your opinions are?
I've used them in the past and liked them for the sole reason I didn't have to buy another. They made no difference in fuel milage or performance.
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I didn't miss anything. Did you look at the dyno charts that came with it? I defy anyone that says they can actually feel that little bit of difference (mostly at high RPM) by the seat of their pants. You would need an actual 25 or more horsepower difference to really feel a quantifiable performance increase. I've done this kind of performance testing for magazines I used to write for and have even used the K&N dyno at their CA facility many times. I'm not just talking off the top of my head. What you're feeling has more to do with the increased intake sound and the psychological effect of your purchase than any real increase from the CAI. But don't take my word for it. There's lots of companies that will gladly take your money to sell you a device that gives you 3-4 peak horsepower more and zero improvement in gas mileage or E.T.
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I am pretty sure that my KN CAI did nothing for performance. I knew that before I bought it though. Sounds nicer though. Put a 14" magnaflow on, and that is where I noticed a pick up on power, albeit not a considerable amount.
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it pulls better hands down. fastman tb, kn intake, 180tstat v6efan, and muffler. pulls harder than stock.
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thunder98110, Yours probably does because it has somewhat of a complete performance package. Bigger intake opening, better flowing exhaust, cooler water temp works all together for better 1/2 to WOT performance, as it should.
Did your gas mileage stay the same as stock with cruise on at a steady speed?
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my driving is primarily city. I get about 320miles before the gas light comes on. dunno about highway yet.
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