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I just stumbled across this thread. No wonder you have so many other parts!
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I had a local shop make my panhard bar adjustable to bring my roll center back. It was a cheap fix.
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Hell I could make them myself if I felt like it...it's just as easy to buy them though.
The adjustable link bars could be a big seller for them...I know I'm not the only one with a lowered Ram that hates the rear tires not being centered.

Also...if your Bell Tech kit didn't have a panhard drop bracket with it you didn't reset anything but your axle being centered side to side. To get the roll center back to where it needs to be the bar itself needs to be parallel to the axle. If it's at an angle it's preloaded to one side....that's just the way it works.
I wish they had gone fully triangulated without a bar at all...or even a Watts link to stop lateral movement.

Adjustable bars and the ability to dial in pinion angle will help out substantially towards getting the tires to plant too.
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Didnt the durango come with a watts link setup?
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Man that is great, thank you for working with them, I too have been noticing the off center rear tires, and It has been bugging me also. But fully adjustable control arms sounds freaking great.
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Looks good!

Quick question, would the panhard bar and upper and lower control arms do any good on a stock height truck(might get a level in the front eventually) that goes to the drag strip occasionally?
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I don't think you'll see much improvement but that depends on how you gauge those things. I personally dislike rubber bushed anything....it makes them feel sloppy to me. The flip side is many people dislike the increased road feel (vibrations) urethane gives. Hell...my F250 had aluminum bushings in the rear leaf springs. LOL
The upcoming adjustable bars could help you plant the tires better at the track if you feel like dialing in and fine tuning the pinion angle for that purpose.
I do the suspension work on a high 3 second/200+ mph 1/8th mile drag car so those things are interesting to me.
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Hell I could make them myself if I felt like it...it's just as easy to buy them though.

Also...if your Bell Tech kit didn't have a panhard drop bracket with it you didn't reset anything but your axle being centered side to side. To get the roll center back to where it needs to be the bar itself needs to be parallel to the axle. If it's at an angle it's preloaded to one side....that's just the way it work plant too.
If you can do it yourself you should, it's a quick process and much cheaper than purchasing. I know by measuring at the shop my roll center is inline from front to rear along the roll axis of the truck.

Now this is fine for street application, but if your goal is the performance of an auto -x truck then by all means you want to focus on the bar being parallel as the bar being at an angle can increase your spring rates and shock dampening. With adjustable shocks in a street application some of these adverse effects can be adjusted by the dampers. Ultimately the connection points of the front and rear bars are the same. It's my opinion that the most critical part of the suspension that is lacking on these trucks when lowered is the front end links. I wish they had a cure for that.

Either way, great progress on your ride and good luck to you with your project.
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Why not just have a fixed length bar to center the rear. If you do not have vibrations from poor pinion angle there is not much advantage to having them adjustable. Why preload when the 4 link prevents rear wrap under load?
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Why not just have a fixed length bar to center the rear. If you do not have vibrations from poor pinion angle there is not much advantage to having them adjustable. Why preload when the 4 link prevents rear wrap under load?
Once a bracket is available that won't be an issue. lol

I have yet to get anyone to show me a pic of the McGaughy's relocation bracket or I would have one machined and have the best of both worlds. Wanna show me a pic?
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