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Does anyone know if a Ram outfitted with the air suspension option will have shocks on the front? The rear has shocks, but I can't tell if the front does or not.
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Does anyone know if a Ram outfitted with the air suspension option will have shocks on the front? The rear has shocks, but I can't tell if the front does or not.
The front will have a strut type suspension similar to the non air bag four wheel drive setup. An interesting note the 2wd air suspension setup will use four wheel drive components...
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By strut type suspension, do you mean a coil over shock set up? From the pictures, it appears the air suspension is the strut? I'm just wondering if one could replace the shocks, as I customarily do with my truck purchases. I prefer belstein shocks on all four corners. They make for a great ride.
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By strut type suspension, do you mean a coil over shock set up? From the pictures, it appears the air suspension is the strut? I'm just wondering if one could replace the shocks, as I customarily do with my truck purchases. I prefer belstein shocks on all four corners. They make for a great ride.
Yes combine the 2 words Air-strut its an air spring and shock together....
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Thanks! Could I replace the shock with a brand I prefer you think? While obviously maintaining the existing air spring?
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Thanks! Could I replace the shock with a brand I prefer you think? While obviously maintaining the existing air spring?
I dont think that would be an option but I havent seen the actual strut in the parts cat. they show it as one assembly...
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It's one of the features that has me looking to get a '13 Ram. I need to wait for some other late availability options (Hemi/8 spd and Crew/6' 4" bed), so will have time to absorb reports from early adopters. Looking forward to what they have to say.

I'm personally much more interested in the self leveling and offroad height increasing options than the lowering though - don't really care about that at all, myself. Really want to know how the ride quality is effected by the leveling and offroad setting. I bet the ride is pretty bad with the springs pumped up via the offroad option, but will just have to wait and find out I guess.

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You won't have to worry about the ride you can't drive around in off road mode it lowers back down when you get over a certain speed I think its 35 MPH..
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Is it really a strut and not a coilover with an air spring? That seems pretty unlikely. Controlling ride height with a strut seems problematic, but it's one of the things coilovers are specfically designed to do. Not to mention, the whole front end will need to be redesigned to accomadate a strut. While a coilover w/air spring shouldn't be that hard to package into the existing design.

But if it really is a strut and not a coilover, then I'll be cancelling my plans to get the air ride option... I just can't see locating the front axle on a 1/2 ton with a strut.

I'm sure it's a coilover with an air spring though. In which case, the shock should be easily replaceable, but that doesn't mean there are any direct replacements available - not with lifting/leveling anyway - that will require a taller air bag (spring). If Ram sells a bunch of air ride equipped 1500's though, it won't take too long for the aftermarket to catch up with options. I'd fully expect to see "leveling" coilovers with longer air bags (springs) become available within a couple years. In the meantime, probably just shocks with spacer mechanisms for the factory air bag.

That is ALL pure speculation on my part though. Except the part that I WON'T be getting the air ride option if it is really a strut with an air spring. I'm not having struts on the front of MY truck...

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You won't have to worry about the ride you can't drive around in off road mode it lowers back down when you get over a certain speed I think its 35 MPH..
Good point. Wonder how hard or easy it's going to be to do a bypass mod. Probably won't be high on the priority list for tuner makers either, so will have to be a DIY mod. Then again, if it really does ride like a covered wagon in off road mode, who needs it anyway...

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