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Old 11-01-2012, 12:35 AM
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op i live in the salt belt, north jersey. here is the best answer you will get, some rust and some don't. some guys like me will go through the car wash, for the under car wash, every week and after every storm to try get all the salt off as soon as possible, and still get rust. some guys just wash their windshield once every 5 years and never get rust. as for the 4th gens, i think they are still to new to know how they will hold up.
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Well I could wait a year or two. Truth is I'm no time pressed and am in the midst of buying a new home so the auto comes 2nd

If the diesel comes in the 1500, with that torqueflight8 trans and cool suspension, that could be amazing.

As far as the tougher ride in the 2/3500, lemme ask this. Currently drive a Honda pilot and Nissan Altima. Compared to my old Buick regal, their ride SUCKS.
Wondering if in terms of ride feel, from most to least comfort,
Hope it goes 1500> 2/3500 > Jap imports...

I hate feeling every crack in the pavement!!!!

Hoping and thinking that a home run would be the diesel 1500 w/ Full coil suspension and 8 Spd manual.
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If you are hoping for a ride that is as smooth as an Altima or Pilot, you'll want the 1500.

2500 rides aren't harsh, just stiff. I am used to trucks and actually hate driving cars. I will say that one of the best truck rides I have experienced was in a 2010 Ram crew cab dually.

The worst rides I have experienced were in 2500 Duramaxes. One being my parent's old 04 2wd CCSB and the other being some old friend's 05 CCSB 4x4 on 35's with the torsion bars cranked. They both would hurt your back.
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Several people above have commented that I shouldn't hold any hope that the 1500 will get a diesel anytime soon. I guess I am hopeful since it was the car sales rep that told me it should be in this coming year. I guess what I'm saying is why would he tell me about what should be coming this year when he could immediately sell me 2500 right then and there, you know?

In the 2500 pamphlet I also was reading about exhaust braking. How exactly does that work? I mean I think I understand engine braking, and in my mind that means shifting to a lower gear to slow down the car. But how and what exactly is engine braking?
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Several people above have commented that I shouldn't hold any hope that the 1500 will get a diesel anytime soon. I guess I am hopeful since it was the car sales rep that told me it should be in this coming year. I guess what I'm saying is why would he tell me about what should be coming this year when he could immediately sell me 2500 right then and there, you know?

In the 2500 pamphlet I also was reading about exhaust braking. How exactly does that work? I mean I think I understand engine braking, and in my mind that means shifting to a lower gear to slow down the car. But how and what exactly is engine braking?
Restricting the exhaust flow to slow the vehicle. It's done either by electronic valve or in the case of the VGT turbo that dodge uses it changes the geometry of the vanes on the exhaust side of the turbo, thus creating a braking affect.
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THanks for the exhaust braking explanation.


One other thought: Most here advocate having a manual transmission. Why not automatic? Just curious. Like Dodgeman, I am buying more out of want than need and wont do a LOT of towing.


But, why do most here advocate maunal over automatic? Is either one long lasting? Rides better.
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One other thought: Most here advocate having a manual transmission. Why not automatic? Just curious. Like Dodgeman, I am buying more out of want than need and wont do a LOT of towing.


But, why do most here advocate maunal over automatic? Is either one long lasting? Rides better.


Also, why cant they just drop the Cummins into the 1500 frame?
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Most of the problems with a automatic is when people start adding power, they burn up their tranny. With a stick, people can upgrade the clutch to make it handle the extra power. I can't say I'd recomend a stick or an auto, get what you want.

The Cummins could be dropped in a half ton, I've seen it done. The problem is the weight and the power. The rear end, front end, transfer case, brakes, transmission just won't stand up to it.

On engine braking. A diesel isn't throttled like a gas engine. On a gas engine you have a throttle body, when its shut, and you down shift, the engine is trying to suck air past the shut throttle blade and you get engine braking.

A diesel has no throttle blade, its open to the air, it pulls in all the air it wants. The only restriction is the air filter housing and the tubes to the turbo intake side. The power on a diesel is controlled by how much fuel is injected. So if you try to engine brake, you don't have the restriction of a throttle trying to pull air to slow you down. This is the purpose of the exhaust brake. Jacobs Engineering has been building exhaust brakes for big rigs for years, hence the term Jake Brake. I don't really know how they work, but you can add them to a diesel if it doesn't have one on it.
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Jacobs Engineering has been building exhaust brakes for big rigs for years, hence the term Jake Brake. I don't really know how they work, but you can add them to a diesel if it doesn't have one on it.
Jacobs Engineering may make exhaust brakes but the "Jake Brake" they are famous for is not the same. Technically they work in opposite ways.

An exhaust brake works by blocking the the flow of exhaust gasses. This traps air in the cylinders and which the cylinder must push against slowing the engine and truck.

A Jake Brake works by creating a vacuum. The exaust valve is opened early which empties the cylinder of air. When the valve closes it creates a vacuum that the cylinder must then pull against.
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So now I have the option of getting the ram 1500 VM diesel new vs a
Used 2500!!!

Leaning toward the 1500 w/ the 3.0 diesel and 8 spd trans... The mileage will be huge when not towing!
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