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Old 10-23-2012, 12:58 PM
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Hey guys, I'm wondering if anyone has had a problem with their hemi misfiring. It has been doing it since it was new but now with around 30,000 km on it the issue has become severe. It only happens when the engine is under a load, (ex. Towing a trailer up a hill) it was only a rare thing to happen at first but now with more miles on the engine it happens even when passing a car. The engine will start hitching, and skipping, if you keep your foot in the pedel the engine basically shuts down running on what I figure to be 6 cylinders, pull off to the side of the road, let it idle and it will eventually run on all 8 again. The check engine light flashes three time then goes out, I have had it to the dealership and they told me unless the check engine light stays on there is nothing they can do. The check engine light has come on around a dozen times in the last few weeks but never stays on, and the engine is always running perfectly (just my luck) when I finally make it into the dealership. Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions or helpful tips on how to show the dealership the problem. In my opion it's only a bad plug or two but I would much rather have the dealership replace it under warranty then myself having to pay the bill. Thanks for any help
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The dealership is lying to you. If the MIL comes on at any time, the PCM will store a code for whatever cause it to come on. If the truck isn't acting up, yes, it will be difficult if not impossible to diagnose. I would suggest a different dealership or calling Chrysler customer service.
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Thanks for your quick reply. I called a different dealership yesterday and was told basically the same thing. I know the first dealership is run by scam artists so I was hoping for a better answer from the second, which was the same answer as the first. Now I have turned here hoping someone can point me in the right direction for my next move
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i would be a pia and at least get them to send out with you and document the problem.
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I suggest taking it to one of those dealerships and just tell them the MIL was on and it was running rough. At least this way you will have a documented argument for when you call Chrysler and explain to them what's going on.
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The dealership is lying to you. If the MIL comes on at any time, the PCM will store a code for whatever cause it to come on. If the truck isn't acting up, yes, it will be difficult if not impossible to diagnose. I would suggest a different dealership or calling Chrysler customer service.
ram tech, i am going to show my lack of mechanical aptitude here, but how can a miss be that hard to diagnose, seems to me check the plugs, injectors and computer would be a good place to start. in the old days, we change plugs wires and points and timing, although all this is much more advance, you still have to start with with the basics and trace back through the "system" , more complicated? yes. more time consuming, yes. pia for the tech...yes. but we paid for this in the included warranty that comes with a new truck.

SORRY ramtech, missed the part in your answer about "if the truck isn't acting up ..." .

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Hunter, you're esentially right. Diagnosing a misfire isn't that hard and the "basics" now are easier than they've ever been, IMO. It's just a matter of catching it in the act.
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I agree with hunter, for years mechanics problem solved cars. Both dealerships told me that without a light on and a code they could do nothing because without a code to tell them the problem they can't just "throw" parts on the truck and hope it gets fixed. That was told to me by both dealerships
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More bollocks. To a point, they can "throw parts" at one if they have a valid reason to suspect it's causing a problem. The problem I'm seeing is two dealerships that don't want to take the time to research and document the problem. The problem could be something as simple as a loose connection but they are unwilling to take the time to look (this is part of the intermittent code diagnostic process outlined by Dodge). At the very least, you need to get this problem on record. I don't know Canadian law, but here, if it's documented while covered under warranty and the warranty expires before it's fixed, they can't charge you for the repair.
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Thanks for the advice, I guess the moral of the story is keep making an appearance at the dealership and hope that someone finds some motivation to help me figure this out. Thanks guys
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