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Old 11-10-2012, 05:28 AM
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Question Towing with a WDH

Pardon me if somebody has already asked this. I have read a bunch of threads that suggest air bags for 4th Gen Rams due to the coil spring rear end. I just bought a 2012 Ram Express 1500 with the 5.7L and 3.55 gears. I have a travel trailer that weighs 5500 dry and I will probably add an extra 1K of gear in the trailer and probably about 500lbs in the bed. I have done the research on the towing capacities and my truck will handle the load. My question is do I still need to add the air bags even with a WDH? Do these trucks sag if you put a heavy load in the bed?
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I had the exact same truck but with a heavier TT. WHen I towed it with the WDH it leveled the truck out only. I never had it sag with it past the initial. Just make sure to measure and the bars are set right. They should be parallel to the trailer arms. Mine towed a 7200Lb trailer with ease.

I upgraded to a 5th wheel so now I have a 2500. Otherwise, I would have kept the 1500.
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I had the exact same truck but with a heavier TT. WHen I towed it with the WDH it leveled the truck out only. I never had it sag with it past the initial. Just make sure to measure and the bars are set right. They should be parallel to the trailer arms. Mine towed a 7200Lb trailer with ease.

I upgraded to a 5th wheel so now I have a 2500. Otherwise, I would have kept the 1500.

Thanks for the reply. I bought the WDH when I bought the TT, I have used it with my 01 Silverado. It all but eliminated the rear end sag and sway. Won't tow heavy again without one.
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I have the '12 Express also, but it's a standard cab. My trailer is about 500 pounds lighter than yours. I run the Airlift bags with no WDH, and the whole package does great in the mountains, tight curves, high wind, and semi traffic. If you already have the WDH, I see no reason to install airbags unless you're going to carry really heavy bed loads when not towing. I also suspect that as trailer weight approaches and exceeds 6000 pounds, that a WHD would be good insurance.
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I have bags on my 1500. I load the bed and then use the bags to restore ride height .. then I hook the trailer up using my WDH. If your hitch is set up right sag shouldn't be an issue.
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If you tow enough and are close to capacity it will cup your front and rear tires. I have experienced this with my 33' trailer loaded with a total of 7250#. With the WDH adjusted correctly it wore my new 10 ply tires in 8000 miles. The front tires showed 2" of cupping on the outside edge while the rears had 2" on the inside edge. When I purchased my atv and loaded it in the box the wear was even greater. I installed the air bags to re-level the truck and I dont have the excessive tire wear issue anymore. Keep in mind that if you tow occasionally this is probably not a big deal but I have towed for 25000 miles now with this truck and trailer and tire wear and replacement costs start to add up.
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I have a WDH to tow my 6200lb TT. The WDH on its own does a great job with leveling and sway. I installed a set of airbags for performance and when the bed is loaded without a trailer. For under $100 (if you install them yourself) it's really a no brainer.

To answer your questions, no you do not need airbags if you have a properly set up WDH. Yes, the truck will sag with a heavy load in the bed.
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Thanks for all of the responses and advice. Sounds like I will need the air bags even with the WDH if I want to put a decent load in the back and like many of you say for less than $100.00 it's a no-brainer..
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Thanks for all of the responses and advice. Sounds like I will need the air bags even with the WDH if I want to put a decent load in the back and like many of you say for less than $100.00 it's a no-brainer..
I would not get the air bags, I would get these new coil springs instead. Cheap and MUCH safer. 25% or 50%. I've read from some people the 50% reduce the sag perfect and don't affect the handling. My next purchase will be the 50% rate springs.

http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index....125&x=116&y=18
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I would not get the air bags, I would get these new coil springs instead. Cheap and MUCH safer. 25% or 50%. I've read from some people the 50% reduce the sag perfect and don't affect the handling. My next purchase will be the 50% rate springs.

http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index....125&x=116&y=18
Aren't these just stiffer springs? I can see going to something like this for carrying a bed camper or something else that is always in the bed of the truck, but the beauty of the airbags we've been talking about here is the ability to retain a better ride when not loaded and adjust air pressure accordingly when toting a load or lighter trailer. Adjustable airbags give you an infinitely tunable spring medium within reasonable limits to suit your needs. I've used airbags, heavier springs, and helper springs to deal with occasional heavier loads on my trucks over the years. In cases where I didn't keep an increased load in the truck all the time, the heavier springs and helper springs were needlessly harsh for normal driving. Airbags just give you options under many conditions.
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