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Old 11-28-2012, 12:36 PM
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What makes you say they're imported?

Outdated? Last 8 years? Huh? The current 2ND Gen Tundra was released in Spring 2007; the current 4TH Gen Ram 1500 was released in Fall 2008. I'd hardly call either "outdated" as, though both look somewhat like their D.O.B, both have undergone minor cosmetic changes [improvements] during that period. As for your ".... its the exact same, old, boring Tundra that has been on the market for the last 8 years!" remark, maybe you can explain....

Overpriced? The 2013 Toyota Tundra's MSRP range is from $23,580 - $44,460. The 2013 Ram 1500's MSRP range is from $21,246 - $43,831. If the Tundra is overpirced, then so is the Ram 1500..... unless you want to split hairs over $600.00 or so.

Ugly? That's your opinion and I respect it. Sure, it doesn't have the lines and flows of our trucks but I would hardly call it "ugly." If you want to see ugly, drop into your local Ford dealership......
I say they are imported because the parent company resides overseas. The company was founded in Japan. I am well aware that most Rams are at least partially built in Mexico and Toyota has 6 major assembly plants is the US, but Toyota will always be an import to me. I don't care what you say.

I never said the RAM was outdated, as a matter of fact its quite the opposite and the main reason why I started this topic to begin with. The Current 2nd Gen Tundra was actually unveiled in Feb 2006 at the Chicago auto show. It received only minor enhancements to grille and taillights in 2010, I didn't notice them, I had to look that one up. And I would hardly call the 2013 ram enhancements "Minor" as you have stated. The interior has remained the same throughout and the 2013 Tundra is unchanged from its previous model, its clearly outdated. End of story.

I say its overpriced because even though the MSRP is in line with other full-size trucks, the rebates and dealer incentives are no where near that of the American Trucks. Most people here bought their Rams for around $10,000 off MSRP. Try getting that deal on a Tundra.

I never said it was a bad truck. I just wonder why anyone thinks that the 2013 Tundra is in the same ballgame with Ram and Ford.
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grubby just wants to argue. cant argue with someone who always thinks he is right.
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I saw a tundra today....just looks so weird...
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I've owned Chrysler, GM, Ford and Nissan. I will never buy a Toyota just for the mere fact that the general population automatically thinks any Toyota is great. I think their vehicles are the ugliest on the market, even worse than the Korean cars which are looking much better lately. The Camry is ugly and overpriced yet apparently was or is the best selling car forever. I don't understand it, I don't care to, I will never own a Toyota. That's me. I would, however, buy another Nissan. Maybe even a Titan if the price was right.
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Funny but not one post on the FORD, being a real good truck
haha my whole family is Ford and I've owned two. Still a Ford guy at heart but I'm experimenting with this Dodge. So far it hasn't let me down and I love it. Just figured I'd give Ford some rep despite all the haters out there haha. I'm not claiming any truck is better than the other..it's like politics or religion to me...no one ever agrees and there is always one point better than the other. Who cares? Get on a ford forum I bet there is shit about dodges, same with chevy...all the way around. Who is right?? I'm just blabbin...everyone knows this. Endless battle. I just say I love trucks and draw the line.
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The Tundra is ugly and every Toyota interior is like it is scaled up or down from the Camry. I liked the previous body style Tundra Crew Luchese Edition, but the newer ones are like a bloated whale. They also have had some transmission issues and the cost to rebuild a Tundra transmission is much more than a Chevy, Ford, or Dodge.

I've owned GM trucks and Dodge, my parents were diehard Chevy and converted to Ford after owning a lemon Duramax. I also had an '11 Dodge Ram that I drove as a company truck at my old job. The new F150's are awesome and in my opinion, the most quality. The Rams are second.

And the Titans are great trucks. I have a friend with an 05 and it is nice. Definitely a powerful truck and a ton of interior room. Most truck body styles are out 7-8 years, then redesigned. So while it is getting a little aged, it is still a good competitor. The next body Titan should be sick.
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The Tundra is ugly and every Toyota interior is like it is scaled up or down from the Camry. I liked the previous body style Tundra Crew Luchese Edition, but the newer ones are like a bloated whale. They also have had some transmission issues and the cost to rebuild a Tundra transmission is much more than a Chevy, Ford, or Dodge.

I've owned GM trucks and Dodge, my parents were diehard Chevy and converted to Ford after owning a lemon Duramax. I also had an '11 Dodge Ram that I drove as a company truck at my old job. The new F150's are awesome and in my opinion, the most quality. The Rams are second.

And the Titans are great trucks. I have a friend with an 05 and it is nice. Definitely a powerful truck and a ton of interior room. Most truck body styles are out 7-8 years, then redesigned. So while it is getting a little aged, it is still a good competitor. The next body Titan should be sick.
2014 is the word. we shall see. I agree every brand has their quirks and they all produce lemons. It's all personal preference in the end.
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