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Old 12-30-2012, 09:43 PM
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My biggest thing about the 8 speed is the dial on the dash.
I know it "clears up room on the console and floor" but man, first the death of manuals and the connection a driver has with a vehicle, and now they are removing the place to put your right hand and even when driving an automatic, I still like the feeling of "shifting" the gears in the auto, even if it's just going from Park to Drive and from Drive to Reverse, etc.
Turning a knob, just makes it more video game like. One more thing they have managed to remove from feeling like you are involved with the car.

I don't understand why they wouldn't offer a floor mounted shifter version?

You can still shift gears using controls on the steering wheel. similar to steering paddle shifters on other vehicles.
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i'm assuming the 8 spd will be better geared for city driving. that's what i'm counting on anyway...

You are correct in that assumption.
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I'll add what I know, not that it really matters to most,I'm still a kid at heart, I want my truck to "peel out" now and then. I have a 2013 6speed, 3.92. Burn outs till my new 305/35/24s r gone if I wanted to. My buddy picked up a 8speed 3.21....don't know what others rear end options there r for the 8, anyway. He couldn't spin. Tires if he wanted to. Guessing its the rear end, just food for thought. Oh and we get the same mpg. About 15-19 depending. Both trucks about 5000kms
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I'll add what I know, not that it really matters to most,I'm still a kid at heart, I want my truck to "peel out" now and then. I have a 2013 6speed, 3.92. Burn outs till my new 305/35/24s r gone if I wanted to. My buddy picked up a 8speed 3.21....don't know what others rear end options there r for the 8, anyway. He couldn't spin. Tires if he wanted to. Guessing its the rear end, just food for thought. Oh and we get the same mpg. About 15-19 depending. Both trucks about 5000kms
I have the 8 speed with the 3.21 gears and spin the tires taking off very easily. This truck blows most cars away taking off at the light. Maybe your buddys truck needs to be recalibrated or has some other issue.
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I'll add what I know, not that it really matters to most,I'm still a kid at heart, I want my truck to "peel out" now and then. I have a 2013 6speed, 3.92. Burn outs till my new 305/35/24s r gone if I wanted to. My buddy picked up a 8speed 3.21....don't know what others rear end options there r for the 8, anyway. He couldn't spin. Tires if he wanted to. Guessing its the rear end, just food for thought. Oh and we get the same mpg. About 15-19 depending. Both trucks about 5000kms
I agree with Omac, something is wrong both with MPG deltas and burning out. Do the math on the 3.21/eight speed and 3.92s/six speed and you will see the eight speed has a lot more off-the-line grunt.

At 1500 engine RPMs, the eight speed/3.21s will push the truck along at just over 68 MPH, the six speed/3.92s at the same engine RPMs will move along at just over 56 MPH. That is a difference that will affect MPGs between the two.
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I drove both the 8 speed and the 6 speed side by side in nearly identical equipped trucks. Tee 8 speed is a true no brainer. smooth, smooth shifting. nearly invisible.

I know this is a dodge forum but just hear me out.
Drive a tundra with the 5.7 - their trans is just super silky IMO probably the one of the best autos in the truck market today, then drive a 6 speed dodge, drive the tundra again then drive an 8 speed dodge. IMO The 8 speed wins. I find it to be nearly as silky as the toyota, but with far better highway downshifting. Plus the extra gear ratios seem to keep the engine in the powerband better when accelerating.

With regard to burnouts, I will snap and post a pic of what I did to my buddy's driveway with the 8 speed and the 3.21's I was just going to chirp them and take off, but that wasn't what happened, lol. I felt I had to go back and apologize for it.
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FWIW, smooth is not necessarily good. Smooth often means there's more slipping which means more wear. A positively engaged shift is typically a firm shift. Now, torque management on modern vehicles comes in to play as well helping a smooth shift without wear, but in any case, I'd prefer a firm/hard shift over a soft shift anyway.
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The smooth shifting is one thing, but the 8 speed also makes a huge difference in available power. I'm not totally convinced the 8 speed makes the truck any quicker, but when you need power it hits the power band much more quickly then any vehicle I've ever driven. It makes the throttle response feel a lot better and it makes the truck feel more powerful. It really shines when passing on the highway. In stead of having to gut back, build the care into power band and then pass, I can hit full torque right away and just pass.

I'm not a motor head so don't quote me on any of this. I'm going purely off how the two trucks felt to me when driving them side by side.
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Hi all,

New member here. I've got a 2013 1500 w/3.21 & 8 speed. I'm wondering what the suitability of this transmission will be for handling power mods such as a Ripp Supercharger when/if they ever become available for this configuration.

Any guesses?
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I've driven them both, I bought a 6 speed. Partially due to availability but also because the knob wasn't something I wanted (or moreso, the alternative push button 4x4 + the tiny up/down shift buttons).

4,000 miles in and I couldn't care less. I feel like I know what my truck is doing and it has plenty of punch for what I need (city, highway, and towing). I also can get over 21mpg on the highway (5.7 outdoorsman qc) and frankly that's good enough for me.
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