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Anyone try towing one of the newer half ton towable 5ers with a 1500. have a 2009 1500 Bighorn with heavy duty tow pack, 3.55, crew cab 4x4, airbag assist rear. Pull 30ft trailer fully loaded about 7500lbs like its not even there for last 2 yrs. would like to up to a xtra lite 5th wheel dry wgt is 7460lbs pin weight of 1160. any help here?
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if i were you, i would do some research, many people won't do a 5th wheel with a 1/2 ton

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Towing 5th wheels with 1/2 tons has generally been a no-no in most cases. However, the RV industry has been morphing quite a bit in the category of lighter, more efficient units of all kinds. While there is still the normal "behemoth" category of 5th wheels and pull-behinds, the industry is also trying to introduce new designs that have less weight, better aerodynamics, and better center-of-gravity. If you're careful in selecting a unit that might indeed be suitable for a 1/2 ton 5th wheel combo in a good design, it could probably work just fine. The caveat is to be informed in checking out how the particular manufacturer achieved this alleged towability...marketing hoopla vs. true engineering principles. Due to fuel costs, truck costs, etc, there are some real innovations coming out of the RV industry. Just be careful in your selection.
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I'd still be concerned with the payload.



The 5th wheel you looking at has a very low hitch weight ratio but that's dry. Add 1,000 lb of supplies and gear and that hitch weight is now around 1,300 lbs. A sliding hitch is 120 - 150 lb so now you payload is around 1450 just for the trailer. You and you wife 300 lb (give or take) so now it's 1750. Oh yes and you might need some fuel 187.5 lb (30 gal. x 6.25 lb/gal). So now you're around 1900 lb. Can you do it - sure. Will it likely tear up your truck prematurely - it probably depends on how much you plan on towing.

5th wheels certainly tow better so I understand the reasoning. The trailer industry has come out with light 5th wheels to expand the market but I think a 5th wheel is still better off on an HD truck.
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As stated above pinweight will be your biggest enemy with a half ton truck and will put you over your payload numbers in a hurry. Dont listen to the salesman at the RV dealership most of them will tell you that a 1/2 ton can tow more than it should. Key word is should, "could" it tow it yeah but why push the truck beyond it's designed limits?
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I pull a fifth wheel with my truck. The truck is rated for 9950 pounds the trailer weighs 7760 dry fully loaded only allowed to go to 9250. Hitch weight is 1260 pounds. I don't pull to much only five times a year seeing as we have use of a lake lot with full hook ups. I put the airbags in from airlift and they keep the truck level. It pulls the trailer really well it feels a lot better then our old travel trailer which was 5000 pounds dry. I haven't had any problems yet but you never know.
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Airbags do work great for leveling the load on the truck I had them on my old 1/2 ton. It is important to note they do not do anything to increase the rear axle weight rating. A pinweight of 1260 dry will be WELL beyond a 1/2 tons payload when loaded and ready to roll. Are the tires even rated for that kind of load nevermind any other critical components?
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I pull a fifth wheel with my truck. The truck is rated for 9950 pounds the trailer weighs 7760 dry fully loaded only allowed to go to 9250. Hitch weight is 1260 pounds. I don't pull to much only five times a year seeing as we have use of a lake lot with full hook ups. I put the airbags in from airlift and they keep the truck level. It pulls the trailer really well it feels a lot better then our old travel trailer which was 5000 pounds dry. I haven't had any problems yet but you never know.
It probably does pull well however even if you pulled it at the dry weight, with no passengers (other than you) and only 1/2 a tank of fuel your still at the payload capacity of the truck. Add a full tank, a passenger or two and the usual extras in the trailer and now you're easily over the limit. That doesn't mean it won't pull well but you are exceeding the payload rating.

Doing so could affect a warranty claim and if you were involved in an accident you might not be covered by your insurance company for your loss. You might also leave yourself open to claims from anyone else involved.
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I have wondered about this as well but right away new that a 5th wheel wasn't going to be an option. I am ok with that as I have seen some great trailers. 5th wheel will have to wait for me to go 2500 or 3500
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I dont have a 5th wheel but do have a 30 foot Travel Trailer thats probably in the 7700 ppound area loaded ready to roll. I towed it with both my old 1/2 ton and my new 3/4 ton both gas powered Hemis the level of comfort and stability while towing is evident between the 2 trucks. Hell i'm even looking into changing out my hitch on the truck as the factory Dodge unit is the same on the 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton trucks. 12K 1,200 tongue and the tongue weight is where I come close. My unit has a dry tongue weight of 980 add propane tanks,batteries and gear inside the camper and im approaching the recomended limit for sure. I am the kinda guy who dont like to run things at 90% too much is better than barely enough.
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