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Old 02-27-2013, 10:23 AM
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Have you checked the CEL codes this last time? are they the same as the first time? subscribed
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Have you checked the CEL codes this last time? are they the same as the first time? subscribed
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This is sounding less and less like a tune problem and more and more like a BCM (Body Control module) with a bad connection or defect, JMO
The 2012 Ram doesn't utilize a BCM. The effected components are all controlled by the PCM but that by no means indicates the PCM is faulty.
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Keep us posted on the issue.....I know, I myself hate issues and lingering issues that does not get resolved.
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Replaced all my Lights on the truck with LED's, 1 year now, no black or overheated sockets everything is clean. Just a bit more info, food for thought.
FWIW, I added a set of 35W backup lights under the bumper on my 2009 Ram. They were a one wire application, with the mounting plate serving as the ground. I tapped into the backup lights and all was good for a while.
One day I noticed condensation in one of the lights, and (not) coincidentally, the truck died when I put it in reverse (activating that backup lamp and causing a ground fault due to moisture). Now when I say died, it went black... like the PCM took a hit and shut down everything. I put the truck in park and tried to restart, and nothing. Fortunately I had just noticed the condensation in the light and did the quick math that the truck died when I put it in reverse, so I jumped out, ripped the wire out of the splice (it was snowing and didn't care to crawl up underneath. Jumped back in and it fired up.
Fast forward a couple of days and the same thing happened again. Guess what? Condensation in the other lamp (cheap F'n harbor freight aux lights).
So, I yanked that wire, and we were good to go. Subsequently, I began to have intermittent problems with the truck going completely dead (wouldn't restart), then unexplainably coming back to life hours later. It left me stranded twice before I took it into the dealer, trying to rule out anything I had done. I removed the backup lights completely, but I think some part of the PCM was damaged. The dealer was not able to replicate the problem and it was never resolved prior to me (wrecking) trading in the truck.
All that being said, lighting and electrical, no matter how small the voltage, if not perfectly grounded can throw stray voltage to any of the control modules and result in very hokey vehicle characteristics, often difficult to properly diagnose.
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Ya as far as my pcm getting fried i told my new dealer what my old dealer said he laughed his ass off my hood vent lights go from the lights the the battery to a switch but what gets me is i have hid lights and fogs and they did not blame them. Oh well got it replaced a year ago and 0 problems.

Any follow up on truck did washing that stuff out change anything
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Ya as far as my pcm getting fried i told my new dealer what my old dealer said he laughed his ass off my hood vent lights go from the lights the the battery to a switch but what gets me is i have hid lights and fogs and they did not blame them. Oh well got it replaced a year ago and 0 problems.

Any follow up on truck did washing that stuff out change anything

im at work so i gotta wait till i get home...
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FWIW, I added a set of 35W backup lights under the bumper on my 2009 Ram. They were a one wire application, with the mounting plate serving as the ground. I tapped into the backup lights and all was good for a while.
One day I noticed condensation in one of the lights, and (not) coincidentally, the truck died when I put it in reverse (activating that backup lamp and causing a ground fault due to moisture). Now when I say died, it went black... like the PCM took a hit and shut down everything. I put the truck in park and tried to restart, and nothing. Fortunately I had just noticed the condensation in the light and did the quick math that the truck died when I put it in reverse, so I jumped out, ripped the wire out of the splice (it was snowing and didn't care to crawl up underneath. Jumped back in and it fired up.
Fast forward a couple of days and the same thing happened again. Guess what? Condensation in the other lamp (cheap F'n harbor freight aux lights).
So, I yanked that wire, and we were good to go. Subsequently, I began to have intermittent problems with the truck going completely dead (wouldn't restart), then unexplainably coming back to life hours later. It left me stranded twice before I took it into the dealer, trying to rule out anything I had done. I removed the backup lights completely, but I think some part of the PCM was damaged. The dealer was not able to replicate the problem and it was never resolved prior to me (wrecking) trading in the truck.
All that being said, lighting and electrical, no matter how small the voltage, if not perfectly grounded can throw stray voltage to any of the control modules and result in very hokey vehicle characteristics, often difficult to properly diagnose.
Good luck with resolving your issues.
Don't know why your using my post as a quote?? I have no issues with my truck, have never had issues with any vehicle I have installed lights on them. But I agree, a badly done wiring job on crappy lights can cause crappy shit to your truck electronics, even welding a muffler on can blow up your ECU, PCM or BCM. People learn from there mistakes, well most do
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