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Machinists Workshop Mag™ recently published some information on various penetrating oils that I found very interesting. Some of you might appreciate this.

The magazine tested penetrates for break-out torque on rusted nuts.

They are below, as forwarded by a professional machinist.

They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrates with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a scientifically rusted environment.


Penetrating oil .......... Average load

None ........................... 516 pounds
WD-40 ..................... ... 238 pounds
PB Blaster .................... 214 pounds
Liquid Wrench ............... 127 pounds
Kano Kroil .................... 106 pounds
ATF*- Acetone mix...........53 pounds

The ATF-Acetone mix was a home brew mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone.

Note that home brew was better than any commercial product in this one particular test.

Our local machinist group mixed up a batch and we all now use it with equally good results.

Note also that Liquid Wrench is almost as good as Kroil for about 20% of the price.

Steve from Godwin-Singer says that ATF-Acetone mix is the best and you can also use ATF- lacquer thinner 50 - 50 mix.

*ATF = Automatic Transmission Fluid
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Interesting results, thanks for sharing. I have no scientific data to support it, just my observation, but I seem to have better results using PB Blaster over Liquid Wrench.
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Interesting results, thanks for sharing. I have no scientific data to support it, just my observation, but I seem to have better results using PB Blaster over Liquid Wrench.
I've had exactly the opposite experience. I use to use Kroil. Had trouble finding it, so switched to PB Blaster... I felt it never worked, so I gave the Liquid Wrench Penetrating oil a try ... This is not the Liquid Wrench oil, in that metal tin, I had used over the years, it came in a spray bottle ... It worked like I was using Kroil, and it was cheapest penetrating oil on the shelf!
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I've had exactly the opposite experience. I use to use Kroil. Had trouble finding it, so switched to PB Blaster... I felt it never worked, so I gave the Liquid Wrench Penetrating oil a try ... This is not the Liquid Wrench oil, in that metal tin, I had used over the years, it came in a spray bottle ... It worked like I was using Kroil, and it was cheapest penetrating oil on the shelf!
Well I guess that explains it, as I used the Liquid Wrench in the tin can. I found with PB Blaster it works best on potentially heavily corroded bolts etc. to spray it on a couple times a day over 2 or 3 days prior to really soak in. Is that the case with Liquid Wrench in the spray bottle also, or does it work within a few minutes of application?
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I mixed up a bottle of this morning. Sprayed it on a bolt with a nut on it before I went to lunch, came back and the nut was laying on the floor
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Good to know, I'll have to try it.
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I use an industrial product called loosen-it. So far it outperforms kroil.
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Astro Glide works in some situations. You know...for deep penetration.


Just had to go there.
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Nothing is instant.. With penetrating oils, you have to give them time to soak into the rust.

BTW, the last time, a few months ago, I used Liquid Wrench Penetrating (LW) oil was on rotors on a 2001 Expedition.. I let the rotors soak for about 6 hours and when I got them off, I could see that the LW had made it's way into all the rust.. For some, 6 hrs might seem a long time, but I originally started with PB blaster, on one side. I let it soak over night, and the rotor didn't budge. I went to pick up some sawzall blades, when I saw the Liquid Wrench ... No Kroil was there ... I figured why not give it a try. Still picked up the blades, figuring I'd need to cut. Well, low and behold, the LW worked. I sprayed both sides with it and let them soak.. Went back 6 hours later and both side came right off with one smack of the BFH. As long as I can find LW, I will never buy PB Blaster again!
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