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Old 03-14-2013, 10:30 PM
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This is the payload rating door sticker that I'm referring to. This will be your GVWR - curb weight and it will vary from truck to truck.
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This is the payload rating door sticker that I'm referring to. This will be your GVWR - curb weight and it will vary from truck to truck.
Got it. 862 lbs is not much! What truck configuration did that appear on? Just curious.
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Are you guys sure the door stickers will show anything but the GVWR and axle ratings? Those are the only numbers I've ever seen and they are consistent at 6800 GVWR with each axle at 3900 lbs max rating...on crew cabs with Hemi and 6 speed (have not seen an 8 speed yet). Those are the only trucks I've been looking at. Curb weight is what you probably need, and I'm not sure that number is posted on door...is it? I could be wrong, just tossing this out there. If I ever get my truck, I'll certainly post figures and pic.

FordApostate has been asking for these numbers, and he's right...no one ever posts!
You just answered the question yourself, 2013 Ram 1500 are 3900 lbs per axle and 6800 GVWR, the door sticker as you just said doesn't list a dry weight. Just to make you happy I went out and looked on mine and that's all that's listed. No surprises.

The payload of the longhorn is listed on the US site as 1145 lbs and the max tow is 9700 lbs. Basic math gives you 5655 for a dry weight. If that's not close enough for you go to the dealer, snag a longhorn for a joy ride and go to a truck scale and weigh it.

Its a light duty truck, if you really need a lot more payload, buy a 2500. If you just need a bit more buy a F150 to get about 300 lbs more from a Platinum or go to an HD but a HD in a light duty seems to defeat the purpose, just get a 250.

I don't understand people who are getting all bent about the payload capacity of a 1500. Did they not read the specs on the web? There's no secret, Ram has posted all the info.
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Holy smokes! If that's from a 1500, it doesn't even meet the historical definition of a 1/2 ton truck! No half ton should be allowed that doesn't have a 1000 lb weight rating.
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That was a long bed F150 from 4 years ago that I almost bought until I saw that sticker. I bought an F250 instead. F-150's are way better now on their payload ratings. Ram is really lagging behind in this area with their 1500's. I test drove a 2013 Longhorn that was even worse than that F150's rating.

I can live with a crappy payload rating now when I couldn't before. I'm setting a measly 900 lbs payload as my minimum required(yeah I know it's not even a half-ton truck). Without any additional information posted I have no way of knowing whether that's an attainable goal with the configuration that I ordered.
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Its a light duty truck, if you really need a lot more payload, buy a 2500.
That's why I'm looking at buying a 2500. Mine will be a daily driver mostly but will also be pulling a travel trailer. I priced out a 1500 and a 2500 with similar options and the price isn't that much more. Maybe $3,000 for similar options in my case. Definitely worth it for better towing numbers.
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I don't understand people who are getting all bent about the payload capacity of a 1500. Did they not read the specs on the web? There's no secret, Ram has posted all the info.
The specs on the web is just the base model that makes it look the best. Add a bunch of options to it and the weight goes up which is reflected in the photo of the sticker that I posted. I don't know how it works in Canada, I'm only referring to the US. If you think your optioned out truck has the specs that's listed on the web, you're in for a surprise.
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Finding your conversation a little interesting. I just bought a 2013 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab 6'4" box Hemi 6 speed 4 wd. I was going to put the Total Load Control air bags on my truck. My truck won't be used for work or carrying heavy loads, so I'm not concerned with payload numbers. Will the air bags, which are apparently capable of carrying much more than 1000 lbs make the truck more conducive to your requirements....I think they are $469.00 and apparently also give you much better handling with them on. Is the low payload rating all about the rear coils springs?
Not sure how and why they rate payload ratings at the numbers they're at currently.
If someone could explain it to me I'd appreciate it....if it's the coil springs sagging I think the air bags will solve that issue....and you still have the better cil spring ride.....EZ
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Finding your conversation a little interesting. I just bought a 2013 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab 6'4" box Hemi 6 speed 4 wd. I was going to put the Total Load Control air bags on my truck. My truck won't be used for work or carrying heavy loads, so I'm not concerned with payload numbers. Will the air bags, which are apparently capable of carrying much more than 1000 lbs make the truck more conducive to your requirements....I think they are $469.00 and apparently also give you much better handling with them on. Is the low payload rating all about the rear coils springs?
Not sure how and why they rate payload ratings at the numbers they're at currently.
If someone could explain it to me I'd appreciate it....if it's the coil springs sagging I think the air bags will solve that issue....and you still have the better cil spring ride.....EZ
Low payload is like anything else... It's based on the weakest link. The problem is, we as consumers don't know which link is the weakest. It could be frame, axles, brakes, springs, tires or something else....

For example, let say you have a 1 ton truck, rated at 4000lbs of payload. Now, replace the factory load range E tire with passenger tires... You've now changed the payload rating down to what the passenger tires can carry. If the passenger tires had a combined rating of 3000 lbs (1500lbs each), it could be unsafe to just have the truck sitting on them, let alone add any weight..

So without knowing the weakest link, those $500 airbags might get your truck to sit level, but you might still be over stressing your truck and still have a break down....
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As far as payload goes, I've been told the weakest link are the coils which sag under load.....possibly a suspension specialty company like Total Load Control could answer that question. I don't know the numbers, but I doubt whether we're talking a lot of weight from first to last place in the 1/2 ton payload competition.....JMHO
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