DODGE RAM FORUM - Ram Forums and Owners Club! - Dodge Truck Forum

Go Back   DODGE RAM FORUM - Ram Forums and Owners Club! - Dodge Truck Forum > Dodge Ram Forum - General Discussion > 2012 Dodge Ram Forum


Notices

2012 Dodge Ram Forum For specific discussion of the 2012 Dodge Ram!


Latest Vendor News
AutoAnything
Addictive Desert Designs!
United Radio
Bayou Goat Mounts

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 03-27-2013, 09:17 PM
gofish101's Avatar
gofish101 gofish101 is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: BC
Posts: 259
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2014 1500 Quad Cab 8sp
Trim Level: SLT
Color: Black
Rep Power: 0
Rep:46
gofish101 is on a distinguished road
Default Onboard Computer Tracking Drivers Habits?

I have heard many stories and heard it called a black box. My question is what information is recorded and can it be used to void warranty?
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #2  
Old 03-27-2013, 10:01 PM
oldhp's Avatar
oldhp oldhp is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 880
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2014 Express 3.6/8 speed auto
Trim Level: Express
Color: WHITE
Rep Power: 4
Rep:902
oldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to behold
Default

Interesting question. I Googled "black boxes in cars" and a whole lot of stuff comes up.
Including this one.
Obama Bypasses Congress to Mandate Black Boxes for All Cars -- Beginning in '14
__________________
2014 Express 3.6/8 speed/3.55 gears...Work Truck
2012 Equinox 2.4...Wife's Ride
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-27-2013, 10:09 PM
LowUFO's Avatar
LowUFO LowUFO is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Member

 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Toronto, ON
Age: 47
Posts: 1,915
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2012 Dodge Ram 1500
Trim Level: Sport Crew
Color: True Blue Pearl
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 5
Rep:1101
LowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud of
Default

From Wiki...

Most EDRs in automobiles and light trucks are part of the restraint system control module, which senses impact accelerations and determines what restraints (airbags and/or seatbelt tensioners) to deploy.[citation needed] After the deployment (or non-deployment) decisions are made, and if there is still power available, the data are written to memory. The data downloaded from older EDRs usually contain 6 to 8 pages of information, though many newer systems include many more data elements and require more pages, depending on the make/model/year of the vehicle being evaluated. Depending on the type of EDR, it may contain either a deployment file or a non-deployment file or sometimes both, depending on the circumstances of the collisions and the time interval between them, among other things.
It is also possible that no data can be recovered from a data recorder. One situation where this might occur is a catastrophic loss of electrical power early in a collision event. In this situation, the power reserve in the restraint system control module capacitors may be completely spent by the deployment of the air bags, leaving insufficient power to write data to the EEPROM. There are other circumstances where a module may fail to record a data file as well.
__________________
Simon
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-27-2013, 10:12 PM
LowUFO's Avatar
LowUFO LowUFO is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Member

 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Toronto, ON
Age: 47
Posts: 1,915
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2012 Dodge Ram 1500
Trim Level: Sport Crew
Color: True Blue Pearl
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 5
Rep:1101
LowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud ofLowUFO has much to be proud of
Default

Here is a really good page..

http://www.edmunds.com/car-technolog...rash-data.html
__________________
Simon
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-28-2013, 12:36 AM
gofish101's Avatar
gofish101 gofish101 is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: BC
Posts: 259
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2014 1500 Quad Cab 8sp
Trim Level: SLT
Color: Black
Rep Power: 0
Rep:46
gofish101 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LowUFO View Post
That was an interesting read.
I wonder if for example if you have a tuner and have been having fun and then have some warrenty issues. Could it be that the computer may not show you had the tuner but could the EDR be recording info unknown to us ie. top speeds, fastest accelaration times, average mph and general driving habits that would prove you altered manufactor specs. some how. Which Ram could use to void warrenties.
It just seems that there are some people having warrenty problems and it's not until they contact Chysler HO that things change. The article implies that we are the owners of any info on the EDR and for Chrysler to admit they have accessed the info without consent may not be legal and leave them exposed.
Maybe some food for thought.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-28-2013, 01:00 AM
letsjet's Avatar
letsjet letsjet is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Reno, Nevada
Posts: 291
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2014 Ram 1500 Express 5.7L 4x4
Trim Level: EXPRESS
Color: FLAME RED
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:27
letsjet is on a distinguished road
Default

I would think that that information is property of the owner of the vehicle, whether it be the bank, finance company, or the actual owner when it's paid off. I'm sure it's there to point a finger at wrong doing or prove innocence. If someone said" snip this wire and there's no tattle tale" how many people would do it?
__________________
2014 Ram 1500 Express 5.7L Quad Cab 4 X 4 Flame Red
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T Hemi Orange Pearlcoat
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic Furious Fuchsia 6 spd
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-28-2013, 01:35 AM
oldhp's Avatar
oldhp oldhp is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 880
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2014 Express 3.6/8 speed auto
Trim Level: Express
Color: WHITE
Rep Power: 4
Rep:902
oldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to behold
Default

There's too much big brother now.
I have side-cuts and tape.
Which wire?
__________________
2014 Express 3.6/8 speed/3.55 gears...Work Truck
2012 Equinox 2.4...Wife's Ride
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-28-2013, 02:08 AM
Chris b's Avatar
Chris b Chris b is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Monroe,LA
Posts: 1,477
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2012 RAM
Trim Level: R/T
Color: Bright White
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 3
Rep:312
Chris b is a jewel in the roughChris b is a jewel in the roughChris b is a jewel in the roughChris b is a jewel in the rough
Default

We all would be some wire cutting son-of-a-guns
__________________
SPONSORED BY
BULLY'S PERFORMANCE
K&N 63cai\Fastman 84mm\BT catch-can\e-fan\180 t-stat\Flowmaster super44\Belltech 2"-4" 964sp\BT custom shifter\20% tint\light blue racing stripes\BD pillar pod\Diablo trinity\Hemifever custom tune\two Memphis 10" subs\custom ported box\Memphis 600amp\Weathertech techliner\MBRP 5" tips\ ARH 1 7/8 long tube headers
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-28-2013, 02:48 AM
GTyankee's Avatar
GTyankee GTyankee is online now
Dodge Ram Forum Member

 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Diego East County, Ca
Posts: 19,111
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2009 Dodge Ram 1500 2X4
Trim Level: quad cab SLT
Color: sunburst orange pearl
Rep Power: 20
Rep:2615
GTyankee has a reputation beyond reputeGTyankee has a reputation beyond reputeGTyankee has a reputation beyond reputeGTyankee has a reputation beyond reputeGTyankee has a reputation beyond reputeGTyankee has a reputation beyond reputeGTyankee has a reputation beyond reputeGTyankee has a reputation beyond reputeGTyankee has a reputation beyond reputeGTyankee has a reputation beyond reputeGTyankee has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The Black Box or Event Data Recorder in cars re-writes over it self every 30 seconds to a minute
The only way it can be used against you, is if you are speeding & crash, the police can get a court order & use it against you

In fact, the Dealership is suppose to inform you about the EDR any time before you sign on the dotted line.

This covers it pretty well
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/1...ur-car-already

Your credit card RFID chip & cell phone records give away more information then the EDR does

OH, by the way, you have another tattletale in your vehicle
GM's ONSTAR
Ford's SYNC
Chrysler's Uconnect Guardian, also called the EVTS system
http://www.allpar.com/corporate/chry.../tracking.html
__________________
Ram 1500 SLT Quad cab, 5.7 HEMI(R) MDS VCT, 5 speed auto 545RFE, 3.55 differential gears, 18" Magnaflow muffler, EGR bug deflector, Bushwacker fender flares, customized Nfab nerf bars, CB radio, Autonet wi-fi router, custom soft tonneau cover, Line_X bedliner, DEBO Step, build date 10/15/08 a Wednesday built vehicle

Last edited by GTyankee; 03-28-2013 at 02:50 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-28-2013, 06:14 PM
oldhp's Avatar
oldhp oldhp is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 880
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2014 Express 3.6/8 speed auto
Trim Level: Express
Color: WHITE
Rep Power: 4
Rep:902
oldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to beholdoldhp is a splendid one to behold
Default

So if I didn't buy it, its not on my '12 Ram Express?
__________________
2014 Express 3.6/8 speed/3.55 gears...Work Truck
2012 Equinox 2.4...Wife's Ride
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Advertisement






All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:39 PM.


= Copyright RamForumZ.com a Gigathreads.com Network Site =Ad Management by RedTyger
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vB.Sponsors


=Gigathreads Network=
CLUBS MOPAR NATION DSM GPMM MAMM JAM
DIESEL Diesel Forum      
CHEVY Chevy Camaro Forum Chevy Volt Forum    
CHRYSLER Chrysler 300C Forum      
DODGE Dodge Avenger Forum Dodge Caliber Forum Dodge Challenger Forum Dodge Charger Forum
  Dodge Circuit Forum Dodge Hornet Forum Dodge Magnum Forum Dodge Nitro Forum
  Dodge Ram Forum Dodge Dakota Forum Dodge Durango Forum Dodge Dart Forum
FORD Ford Raptor Forum Ford F150 Forum Ford F100 Forum  
JEEP Jeep Forum      
PONTIAC Pontiac G8 Forum      
SRT SRT Viper Forum SRT Cuda Forum