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Old 04-01-2013, 07:09 PM
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So I am looking to getting a 2500 instead of my 1500. My question is to any of you that own a 3/4 ton w/Hemi and are HONEST. I don't want anyone who typically stretches the truth to make them selves look better to answer. I only want facts good or bad.

I have a 10' 1500 w/Hemi and 3.92 gears. I get about 17-18 mpg on a good day driving 60 mph on the highway. I get 13-14 mpg around town and back and forth to work. Pulling my 7x23' enclosed snowmobile trailer at 70 mph I get 10 mpg.

I just want to know what my mpg's will be if I get a 3/4 ton. I do not want this to turn into a gas vs diesel argument so please save those comments. I only drive 2.5 miles to work so a diesel is out of the question.

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I have a 11 Power Wagon (2500 Hemi)

I get about 13 around town and 16-18 on the freeway depending on conditions. Keep in mind I have spent the money to switch to manual hubs from unit bearings. I no longer turn my front end constantly. Stock I was getting 11.5 town and 15 freeway with 4.56 gears.
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Your gas mileage will be worse than it is in the 1500, more so while pulling. I thought about it, but really unless you need the extra pulling power, or want to do some serious offroading.. the 1500 will get better mileage. It's also easier to park.

The Hemi just isn't a truck motor (Incoming flames, Rofl). It's a great sport motor, but it's never been amazing at pulling. I've seen people do a lot to make them better (Cams, fuel systems, so on) which gives better MPG while pulling.

My 1500 will tank to 12 MPG pulling an unloaded trailer with a mesh ramp.. I get the same milage pulling a 20" bass boat with a tandem trailer. The 1500 also rides better, The new 2500's ride great, but you still feel every bump, it'll jar your teeth out on railroad tracks!

All I'm saying is make sure you consider EVERYTHING before you buy rofl. We got a 2500 to pull a 5th wheel (Soon to buy). I love m 2500, solid front axle has some major upsides to it too when working off road. I also work in Quarries, which turn into very deep mudhole/small lakes with a little bit of rain.

Good luck, whichever choice you make you'll love I'm sure!
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I've got a 2010 2500 Hemi and I get between 10 and 13mpg running empty through the hills of PA. The best I ever got was 14.6mpg on a hwy trip.
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Your gas mileage will be worse than it is in the 1500, more so while pulling. I thought about it, but really unless you need the extra pulling power, or want to do some serious offroading.. the 1500 will get better mileage. It's also easier to park.

The Hemi just isn't a truck motor (Incoming flames, Rofl). It's a great sport motor, but it's never been amazing at pulling. I've seen people do a lot to make them better (Cams, fuel systems, so on) which gives better MPG while pulling.

My 1500 will tank to 12 MPG pulling an unloaded trailer with a mesh ramp.. I get the same milage pulling a 20" bass boat with a tandem trailer. The 1500 also rides better, The new 2500's ride great, but you still feel every bump, it'll jar your teeth out on railroad tracks!

All I'm saying is make sure you consider EVERYTHING before you buy rofl. We got a 2500 to pull a 5th wheel (Soon to buy). I love m 2500, solid front axle has some major upsides to it too when working off road. I also work in Quarries, which turn into very deep mudhole/small lakes with a little bit of rain.

Good luck, whichever choice you make you'll love I'm sure!
I don't see how the Hemi isnt a truck motor its no worse than any LS or LQ Government Motors built? Maybe in the 1500 as it carries similar tuning to the cars, but in the 2500 it is tuned very differently. As for mileage, even stock my 11 2500 got much better mpg with 8500# behind it than my 10 1500 did (Stock: 2500 got 10mpg 1500 got 6-8mpg). It also tows better as the brakes are much more capable and the tail end doesnt wag and shimmy like the 1500 does.

Now I do realise that I have a slightly different set-up than most 2500 out there. I run 4.56 gears on 33 tires and have actual selectable hubs up front that make a huge difference in MPG (seriously 2-3+ mpg just by not turning the front end).
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Fair enough, I haven't seen much of the 5.7 Hemi's. As for why otherwise, it's simple, they do everything they can to give it better MPG for the daily driver aspect. It's a cookie cutter motor for production cost, and it sits perfectly in the market it's designed for.


In the 1500 class, the majority of the owners will never pull a trailer. Those that do will never exceed 3-4k lbs. You might have 5% of the people buying it that pull something over 6k and that might only be a handfull of times the truck is owned.


The 2500 is a different beast all togather (I use that term exactly as it sounds too, rofl). It's in a market that doesn't require MPG from the EPA to be posted. The majority of the people looking for 2500's and up want it for towing. About half of the owners are still weekend towers. It handles towing better, at the cost of ride. power at the cost of MPG, and you lose the ability to park inside for coolness factor! (Yes, that's humor)


Decided to delete the rest of my speel. You also have to remember you're compairing a power wagon to a stock 2500. The only 5.7 2500 I would consider buying it a Power Wagon.

As I stated above, the only reason to buy a 2500, is if you plan on doing a LOT of towing, or a LOT of off roading. The CTD will hurt you more offroad than help. I've managed to sink my 2500 to the frong axel just by stopping for 30 seconds. The 5.7 is lighter, but it'll get worse milage when pulling.

In my 1500 I can run 72 on the freeway and average 20mpg (with a 2wd) In my 2500 CTD I can't go above 62-63 without the MPG tanking, I get around 20 in the flats, 18-19 in hills. At 70 I'm lucky to get 12-13 MPG. With the higher gearing and the 2500's transmission, I'm assuming it would be something similar as well. Most of the speed limits on the freeway here are around 75, so I tend to look like an @$$ but it doesn't hurt as much at the pump. Pulling my boat I drop around 1-2 mpg.
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You need to have your CTD looked at. Even my 2004 got better mileage than that stock. I would never expect my PW to get the mileage of a CTD, but I can pull with and keep up with any diesel, just cost me more in fuel. Like I said though, even with gas, 1k# in the bed and 8500# trailer I still average 10-12 on flat 8-10 in the hills.
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I'm actually doing better than most. Average these days is 14-16. The older trucks are way better.

The EGR/DPF ruins gas milage. All of the 6.7's suffer from this EPA nightmare.. As i said before, if you're going for it, you really have to need it rofl
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No argument with the above comments. I had a QC 4x4 Hemi 2500 w/ 4.10 gears. Once in a while, I could get 15-16 MPG on FLAT highway. Most of the time, around town, 13 would be about average.

I have a 31 ft travel trailer weighing over 7K. My current 1500 QC 4x4 w/ 3.92 geta nearly the same milage as my 2500 did while towing. 8-10 depending upon the hills.

Yes, my 1500 does "squat" noticably under load. However, it only levels the ride and the 1500 handles the load well. If I was going to be doing a lot of towing, with a load over 8K, I would recommend the 2500.

If you don't want a CTD the Hemi 2500 makes a rugged, durable, hard working truck that can withstand more abuse than the 1500. And, the 2500 actually has ground clearence the 1500 lacks

Consider looking at a pre-owned 2500 Hemi. A lot of people buy them and quickly find out they are not happy with their choice. Used 2500 Hemi's are dirt cheap and plentiful
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I agree with whatroads in that even the new body style gas 2500's are cheap as hell. If I needed a little more suspension I would just gobble up a used gasser and enjoy roughly the same average driving fuel economy of a CTD. (DPF and EGR suck).

That being said, Dodge did a wonderful job on the towing capability of the new 1500 suspensions. Older trucks tend to lift the front end up a lot the more weight you add to the toung. The new 1500 just keeps squatting and without lifting the front end. I'm sure this effect does wonders for towing stability with keeping more weight over the front wheels. Older half ton trucks I've owned lift very easily in the front and sway much easier at highway speeds.

We used to tow so much we had to have diesel trucks. Not so much anymore. If I had unlimited funds I would be driving a loaded longhorn 3/4 ton. I don't even need a 3/4 ton truck these days but do I want one? Yes.
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