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I will say one thing. Props to Honda for making the stock intake ram air.

I honestly don't have an issue with a sideways mounted engine. However, with that you basically rule out RWD and 4WD, so that's where the problem is. The engine bay in those pictures really does look like an accord or cr-v...
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I'm not looking for you or anyone to get banned. Just going by the facts provided by reputable Journalistic sources.
I know you're not out to get anyone banned but I'm trying to keep myself in check to keep from being banned.

Only reason I even said anything, it sickens me to hear a ridgeline called a truck when it's clearly not.

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I will say one thing. Props to Honda for making the stock intake ram air.

I honestly don't have an issue with a sideways mounted engine. However, with that you basically rule out RWD and 4WD, so that's where the problem is. The engine bay in those pictures really does look like an accord or cr-v...
Plus having a tiny little transaxle, prolly no LSD and first time you pull anything near towing capacity I can already see that dinky trans burning up.
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IMHO arguing what is or isn't a truck misses the fact (particularly now) that the definition is a moving target. Honda created a new hybrid ladder frame/unibody construction for the Ridgeline; that construction isn't universally recognised as a truck but in decade it might be common place in light duty pickups. It has a dual opening tailgate, what kind of truck has that? Personally, I'd love that feature on my Ram.

Not that many years ago many would have said a "real" truck doesn't have rear coil springs. Heck, on the Ford forum I bet there are those who still say it. Does a real truck have a sun roof or heated and cooled seats? Is a real truck lowered? Does it come with a video screen in the ceiling? Real trucks are more than they ever were. Almost gone are the days of a spartan cabin, upholstered in vinyl with an 8" bed. What people use "trucks" for is changing and so are the trucks offered.

Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled programme. I came from a midsize but not a pickup. I drove Astro vans for a number of years. Based on the Chevy S10, they towed well, had loads of interior space, got 20 mpg on the highway and could be counted on for 200,000 mile plus. Unfortunately Chevy killed them rather than update them. Since, mini vans can't tow and full size vans have the style of a school bus, I looked at midsize trucks. The interior space simply sucked. So, I drove the Ram and fell in love.
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Porsche makes a 4 door suv they classify as a truck and its not a truck and it will prob blow away 99% of the rams
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IMHO arguing what is or isn't a truck misses the fact (particularly now) that the definition is a moving target. Honda created a new hybrid ladder frame/unibody construction for the Ridgeline; that construction isn't universally recognised as a truck but in decade it might be common place in light duty pickups. It has a dual opening tailgate, what kind of truck has that? Personally, I'd love that feature on my Ram.

Not that many years ago many would have said a "real" truck doesn't have rear coil springs. Heck, on the Ford forum I bet there are those who still say it. Does a real truck have a sun roof or heated and cooled seats? Is a real truck lowered? Does it come with a video screen in the ceiling? Real trucks are more than they ever were. Almost gone are the days of a spartan cabin, upholstered in vinyl with an 8" bed. What people use "trucks" for is changing and so are the trucks offered.

Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled programme. I came from a midsize but not a pickup. I drove Astro vans for a number of years. Based on the Chevy S10, they towed well, had loads of interior space, got 20 mpg on the highway and could be counted on for 200,000 mile plus. Unfortunately Chevy killed them rather than update them. Since, mini vans can't tow and full size vans have the style of a school bus, I looked at midsize trucks. The interior space simply sucked. So, I drove the Ram and fell in love.
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IMHO arguing what is or isn't a truck misses the fact (particularly now) that the definition is a moving target. Honda created a new hybrid ladder frame/unibody construction for the Ridgeline; that construction isn't universally recognised as a truck but in decade it might be common place in light duty pickups. It has a dual opening tailgate, what kind of truck has that? Personally, I'd love that feature on my Ram.
I could definitely see that happening in the future. If I had to pick a hybrid vehicle like the Ridgeline, though, I would go with the Avalanche. The fact that the Ridgeline has the V6 is absurd. I often wonder why people would spend such money on that vehicle. Maybe it's the reliability facade of Honda. Who knows. The Avalanche has so many features - the bed cover, mid gate, side of box Rambox style storage, etc. However, price keeps me away from the Avalanche (as well as a lot of people I'm sure). When I can get a crew cab 6.4 bed truck for many many thousands cheaper, how could I go for the Avalanche?

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Not that many years ago many would have said a "real" truck doesn't have rear coil springs. Heck, on the Ford forum I bet there are those who still say it. Does a real truck have a sun roof or heated and cooled seats? Is a real truck lowered? Does it come with a video screen in the ceiling? Real trucks are more than they ever were. Almost gone are the days of a spartan cabin, upholstered in vinyl with an 8" bed. What people use "trucks" for is changing and so are the trucks offered.
Those ford guys that say that are getting rattled around in that cab though. I drove my father in law's 2012 F150 and the ride is terrible compared to the Ram 1500. Since the capabilities of both trucks are basically the same I do not understand why other manufacturers are not going to coils for the light duty trucks yet.

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I owned a '90 Dakota RCLB 4X2 for a few years. Great little truck. I didn't go right from that to my currant '12, but the differences are astronomical!!
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I went from a 2012 TRD Sport Double Cab 4x4 Tacoma to a 2010 Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie CC 4x4. We needed the room and I missed the full size truck!
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