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Old 04-30-2013, 06:30 AM
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im considering mount/welding a front mounted hitch on to my 2005 dodge ram daytona quad ab because ive been doing some research on how a rear mounted hitch on a 33ft travel trailer is a bad idea because of the offset weight cause the tires to be overloaded with bouncing being signicantly increased at the rear and also there would be a lot of reinforcing of he frame to handle the weight. i want to be able to take my 2007 kawasaki zx14r with me when i go on trips but cant because if i put it in the bed i will beat the hell put of my tailgate because when my front tire is against the cb all of the bed my back tire sits in the middle of my tailgate. so this is why im considering a front hitch. woth a full tank gas and oil the bike weighs about 500lbs give or take 15lbs. i have a bike rack with a anti wobble block and it works great in the rear. my main conern is beating the hell out of my fromt bumper hood and bike and it end up being more expenive then the enjoyment will be. i not worried about overloading my truck tire because i have 05/55/20 bf 10 ply mud terrians with a max load of 3250 per tire. i have heavy duty front shocks o the front and self adjusting rear shocks on the back for towing. if anyone has any other ideas or has inimput or done something similiar it would be greatly appreciated
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I'm sure it may be possible but I think there are a few issues you'll need to overcome:

1. The weight of the bike. Your bike is 500 lbs. That's right at the tongue weight max for most of the commercially available front hitches. There may be heavy duty options available but you could be looking at serious money. You will also need to beef up the front springs. They weren't designed for that extra weight.

2. Lights. Your bike will probably block your headlights, markers and front license plate (if your state has one). Similar to a snow plow, you will need to fashion a set of auxiliary lights.

3. Airflow. Even if you solve the above two it still may not work. A bike like yours could significantly affect the airflow to your radiator. Since you will be using this set up while you are towing you may not have enough airflow to properly cool the engine when it's under extreme load.

It might be possible, whether it can be done without major engineering I don't know.

I think you might be better trying something else. You could brace the tailgate; they make kits to brace the tailgate to allow extra loads. The other possibility could be a headache rack. I remember driving to FL; I saw someone with a camper and he had his bike on a ramp that went from the bed to the headache ramp. It was quite an angle but the mounting looked solid and didn't seem to be shifting at all.
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I used to load my bike in the bed but I got tired of doing it so I started looking for alternatives.

*This one is meant as a warning*
I found this product called cycle-tow, you basically lock the front wheel to the rear hitch, the handle bars get strapped to a tie bar and the rear wheel swings behind. Looked great and only $350 so I went for it. Well the second timing using it, my bike got TRASHED!!!! The straps bent my handle bars the bike fell over dented the tank and cracked my controls. I caused $1100 in damages. Called the guy who makes it and explained what happened and he told me "I've never heard of this happening, IDK what to tell you." So just as a warning, if you come a across it don't buy it. It's not worth the risk.

On a brighter note, I decided to buy an 8x4 V-nose enclosed trailer to keep it in. I couldn't be happier. It has it's only little mobile garage and I don't have to worry about people scratching or denting it. More costly but worth it IMO.(the cycle-tow is now a $350 wheel chock)

I know your wanting to pull a travel trailer too (can't pull 2) but I thought I'd just through in my experience.
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thanks for input guys. i was talking to a few guy at work about it and one of them suggested that i go talk to a guy that does steel fabrication and see what he could do for me and when highlandchef said that he saw a guy with his bike on a headache rack it gave me a idea to go talk tothis guy and have him work up something that i can side into the bed rail holes that is a ramp to bring the front of my bike up enough so i can shut the tailgate and have a wheel chock on the front thats on a hing that locks into place by a pinso i can have a warm and fuzzy thatmy bike isnt going any where with combination of rachet straps and the wheel chock. but thanks again for the help
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No problem; glad to be the inspiration for an idea. I think the bike is much safer on a ramp in the back than on the front of the truck. Also I think you will avoid a lot of complications.
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I'm sure it may be possible but I think there are a few issues you'll need to overcome:

1. The weight of the bike. Your bike is 500 lbs. That's right at the tongue weight max for most of the commercially available front hitches. There may be heavy duty options available but you could be looking at serious money. You will also need to beef up the front springs. They weren't designed for that extra weight.

2. Lights. Your bike will probably block your headlights, markers and front license plate (if your state has one). Similar to a snow plow, you will need to fashion a set of auxiliary lights.

3. Airflow. Even if you solve the above two it still may not work. A bike like yours could significantly affect the airflow to your radiator. Since you will be using this set up while you are towing you may not have enough airflow to properly cool the engine when it's under extreme load.

It might be possible, whether it can be done without major engineering I don't know.

I think you might be better trying something else. You could brace the tailgate; they make kits to brace the tailgate to allow extra loads. The other possibility could be a headache rack. I remember driving to FL; I saw someone with a camper and he had his bike on a ramp that went from the bed to the headache ramp. It was quite an angle but the mounting looked solid and didn't seem to be shifting at all.
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The ramp/headache rack idea for the bed is good.

How far up will the tailgate go if the bike is loaded diagonally in the bed? Namely, front wheel tucked right into one of the front corners of the bed?
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Well i played around a little bit and was able to get the bike in enough to where I got the bike off the tailgate and was able to lift it enough to get it off and I put the tailgate in te camper. I didn't have to change anything up other than take my my tonnue Cover off. Which was a pain doing it by myself.
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I'm pretty sure if you nose the bike into one of the front corners and swing the rear to the opposite corner you can get the bike in with the tailgate up. I also have a ZX14, haven't had it in the truck yet but it always worked for my other bikes. Just make sure you have rear tiedowns as well as fronts.
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what you need is a variation of this
i have seen short dune buggies mounted like this



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Your truck is a 1/2 ton right? How much does that 33' trailer weigh? The 500lb bike would be the least of my worries. It doesn't matter what tires you have or what shocks, it sounds like the trailer is too much for a 1/2 ton.

A possible solution and no more lecture, I've seen people mount motorcycles to the back of their trailer.
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