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Fuel Hostage and Toyo MT's installed and reviewed

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#1 ·
A few of you know I ordered wheels and tires from Discount Auto Performance 3 weeks ago (longest three weeks of my life!) Well they finally came in Friday so I left work early to go pick them up.

The wheels are 20x9 -12 offset (4.5" backspacing) Fuel Hostage Chrome wrapped in 35x12.5 Toyo Open Country MT's. I'm definitely happy with the size I and offset I went with. It gives it a really mean, beefy looking stance. The pictures don't even do it justice. On the front the outside of the tire is 2 1/8" past the fender and on the back the outside of the tires is 1 5/8" past the fender. Enough where if I do get stopped and told to put fender flares (I'd go with OEM 2500 flares) the truck will still have a good stance.

With the 2.5" HBS leveling kit and 0.75" TGC coil spacers my measurements were:

37.50 37.75
39.50 39.50

Now with the 35" tires my measurements are:

39.25 39.50
41.00 41.00

I realize those numbers don't quite add up to be an equal lift all around. It's possible that I was measuring in a slightly different spot each time or something like that. To me, measuring to the top of the fender isn't a very accurate way to calculate your trucks height, rake, etc. so I'm not too worried about it....

Unfortunately my scale was dead and I didn't have the right battery to replace it so I couldn't measure the difference between the stock wheels/tires and the new ones. Down the road when I get a change I'll pull one back off and weight them to see what the actual numbers are. I can tell you the new ones are pretty damn heavy! It took me and my friend to lift them and get them into place on the truck.

As far as "power loss" is concerned it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be. On flat land it's actually not bad at all. I was very impressed. Going up hills I definitely notice it though. It takes a lot more throttle to keep the speed up the steep hills. I've only been on the highway once with them for a short period of time and I noticed it's also going to take a bit more to keep it going there (which was expected). I've only had them on for 2 days so I can't really comment on what my MPG numbers are going to be yet. I'm going to guess I'll lose 2 MPG average. So far I'm averaging approximately 12 MPG city driving (with many hills) with them but I'm not sure if my Bully Dog is 100% correct now with the bigger tires.

The Toyo's are also a lot quieter than I expected. Like literally half as loud as I would have guessed. Even with my windows open the sound doesn't bug me at all and wouldn't stop you from having a conversation with someone inside the truck. On the highway they were a bit louder but again, not enough to bug me. My exhaust is still louder most of the time. I'm very impressed with the noise level (or lack there of).

A big thing I know people are interested in is if the -12 offset will rub with a 2.5" level and 35x12.5" tires. The only rubbing I have is on the back of the inner fender where the little out dent is. And it is very minimal at that. I will easily be able to trim it up in about 20 minutes. I will post a few pictures showing the location and clearance.

I hope I've covered everything and any questions you may have. If there's anything you're wondering about don't be afraid to ask. I'd love to help you out in any way that I can.

I want to give a big thanks to Andrew and Jeremiah at Discount Auto Performance for hooking me up with great forum pricing on these wheels and tires and for putting up with my constant PM's and emails wondering about when they were being shipped and when I was getting tracking info etc. :LOL:

Pictures shown in posts below.
 
#8 ·
The truck looks awesome, great combination. Just got the trail grapplers myself and hope to put the black hostages on soon. This just makes me want to get em that much faster!
I know how you feel. Having patience sucks when you see pictures of other guys installs.

Looks like a totally different truck! Nice job! :smileup:
Thanks guys! I'm very happy with how it's turned out. I think my next exterior mod will have to be getting a painted trim piece for on top of the front bumper and an OEM horizontal grille. I think that will really complete the look.
 
#9 ·
Thanks! I'm thinking a 6" RCX lift and Bilsteins down the road. But that's gonna cost me a lot more money because I'll want to do power steps at the same time plus I'd have to change out my Airlift bags. I'm happy with where the truck's at right now so it will probably stay this height for a while.... Who knows where it will be at next year or in a couple months though. :LOL:

I also have some student loans to pay off so I want to focus a little more on that now rather than truck mods. Unfortunately....
 
#14 ·
definatley a huge differance from the stocke chrome 17's

looks great !
That's one great looking truck! I especially love the flexing photos ;)

Just a side note to those reading this thread. What brandonjansen posted about the Toyo MT's is 100% correct. They are SHOCKINGLY quite on the road. When I installed them I was expecting there to be a lot more road noise than there is.... and as you can see from his pics, they definitely sexify your truck! Good choice!
Thanks everyone! Ya definitely is a huge difference over the stock wheels. Looking at the before and after pictures side by side made me realize it even more.

Making me want my tires and rims more now haha
I bet! You'll get yours soon enough. And your transformation with the lift and wheels and tires will be huge! Looking forward to seeing that.
 
#11 ·
definatley a huge differance from the stocke chrome 17's

looks great !
 
#13 ·
That's one great looking truck! I especially love the flexing photos ;)

Just a side note to those reading this thread. What brandonjansen posted about the Toyo MT's is 100% correct. They are SHOCKINGLY quite on the road. When I installed them I was expecting there to be a lot more road noise than there is.... and as you can see from his pics, they definitely sexify your truck! Good choice!
 
#18 ·
Thanks! I'm definitely happy that I went with the -12 offset. Makes the stance look really good. I'm still betting I'll get pulled over for it eventually. But for now I'll keep running it like this.

Very nice B! That set up is much improved from what you had before and makes it look a lot better!
Thanks bknife! It's crazy now much of a difference wheels and tires make in the overall look of the truck. Many people have said it looks like a completely different truck now.

Chrome looks good on there.
Ya I decided that with the chrome bumpers, grille, and headlights the chrome wheels would really pull the whole truck together. Black would have looked a little out of place IMO. I still plan on getting the OEM horizontal chrome grille which I think will add to the look a bit more.
 
#16 ·
Very nice B! That set up is much improved from what you had before and makes it look a lot better!
 
#20 ·
Thanks idefi!

As I stated before I'm definitely happy I went with the chrome. It really brings the truck together. I think on a black sport trim truck black wheels look great but they just wouldn't suit my truck. It didn't take me long to make up my mind about that.
 
#29 ·
Thanks!

Ya for quite a while I was working at paying off my loans and modding the truck at the same time. Then when I decided I wanted wheels and tires the loan paying stopped. lol. Now I just gotta catch up again to be where I should be. Luckily for me I'm done school so at least I don't need to worry about them getting any higher. I'm not really in a rush to lift it so I might slowly start to put money aside to get the lift and Bilsteins in a few months.
 
#34 ·
I have noticed that the heavier weight has made my gas mileage go horribly south and I only have the 33's that they put on there not the 35's that I ordered (which I get this week). The tire noise isn't too bad. I kind of like it.
 
#36 ·
Thanks Andrew!


MPG Update

I finally was able to correct my speedo and odometer after updating my GT for Hemi Plus through Bully Dog's customer service. Now with the odometer correct and running a full tank through it again my hand calculated mileage came out to 16.1 MPG US (19.3 MPG IMP, 14.6 L/100km). I'm definitely not complaining about that! That's about a 1.5 - 2.0 MPG drop from where I was at with the stock tires (which were only 31.7" tall and MUCH lighter).
 
#37 ·
damn that's not bad at all!

I average anywhere from 12-14 depending on how much highway driving I do
 
#39 ·
Ya I was expecting closer to 14 or 15. So hopefully I can keep these numbers up. We'll see how it goes. In a couple weeks I'm thinking I'll bump up to the performance tune on my Bully Dog and we'll see if that affects it at all.

Keep in mind I drive about 75% on the highway so that keeps my numbers a little better.
 
#42 ·
Ok so i am torn between 275/65/r20 or 285/60/r20. I will be getting bilsteins set at 2.1 and a .75 inch rear spacer. Which tire size do you all think will look better?

Thanks
Personally I would crank your Bilsteins up to 2.8" and then put a 285/65/r20 on there. With Bilsteins at 2.8" and a 0.75" coil spacer you'll end up with a very similar height/stance as mine. At 2.1" you'll still have quite a bit of rake. But if that's what you want then go for it.

Out of those two options the height of the 275/65/r20 (34.1"x10.8") will be nicer to have than the width of the 285/60/r20 (33.5"x11.2") IMO. The 285/60's are barely taller than stock.... you probably wouldn't notice much of a difference.
 
#43 ·
Nice looking truck OP
 
#46 ·
Can you post a big pic of the side profile shot you have in your sig? Truck looks great, and good to see someone go with some chrome instead of the all black look.
 
#47 · (Edited)
Sorry for not replying sooner! Someone I missed that you had posted in this thread. What side profile shot are you looking for? The top one or the bottom flexing one? I don't believe I have either on my photobucket account but I'll get them uploaded ASAP to post here for you.

And thanks! Definitely happy I went with the chrome!

EDIT: Here are the pictures