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Old 05-05-2013, 06:50 PM
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A few of you know I ordered wheels and tires from Discount Auto Performance 3 weeks ago (longest three weeks of my life!) Well they finally came in Friday so I left work early to go pick them up.

The wheels are 20x9 -12 offset (4.5" backspacing) Fuel Hostage Chrome wrapped in 35x12.5 Toyo Open Country MT's. I'm definitely happy with the size I and offset I went with. It gives it a really mean, beefy looking stance. The pictures don't even do it justice. On the front the outside of the tire is 2 1/8" past the fender and on the back the outside of the tires is 1 5/8" past the fender. Enough where if I do get stopped and told to put fender flares (I'd go with OEM 2500 flares) the truck will still have a good stance.

With the 2.5" HBS leveling kit and 0.75" TGC coil spacers my measurements were:

37.50 37.75
39.50 39.50

Now with the 35" tires my measurements are:

39.25 39.50
41.00 41.00

I realize those numbers don't quite add up to be an equal lift all around. It's possible that I was measuring in a slightly different spot each time or something like that. To me, measuring to the top of the fender isn't a very accurate way to calculate your trucks height, rake, etc. so I'm not too worried about it....

Unfortunately my scale was dead and I didn't have the right battery to replace it so I couldn't measure the difference between the stock wheels/tires and the new ones. Down the road when I get a change I'll pull one back off and weight them to see what the actual numbers are. I can tell you the new ones are pretty damn heavy! It took me and my friend to lift them and get them into place on the truck.

As far as "power loss" is concerned it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be. On flat land it's actually not bad at all. I was very impressed. Going up hills I definitely notice it though. It takes a lot more throttle to keep the speed up the steep hills. I've only been on the highway once with them for a short period of time and I noticed it's also going to take a bit more to keep it going there (which was expected). I've only had them on for 2 days so I can't really comment on what my MPG numbers are going to be yet. I'm going to guess I'll lose 2 MPG average. So far I'm averaging approximately 12 MPG city driving (with many hills) with them but I'm not sure if my Bully Dog is 100% correct now with the bigger tires.

The Toyo's are also a lot quieter than I expected. Like literally half as loud as I would have guessed. Even with my windows open the sound doesn't bug me at all and wouldn't stop you from having a conversation with someone inside the truck. On the highway they were a bit louder but again, not enough to bug me. My exhaust is still louder most of the time. I'm very impressed with the noise level (or lack there of).

A big thing I know people are interested in is if the -12 offset will rub with a 2.5" level and 35x12.5" tires. The only rubbing I have is on the back of the inner fender where the little out dent is. And it is very minimal at that. I will easily be able to trim it up in about 20 minutes. I will post a few pictures showing the location and clearance.

I hope I've covered everything and any questions you may have. If there's anything you're wondering about don't be afraid to ask. I'd love to help you out in any way that I can.

I want to give a big thanks to Andrew and Jeremiah at Discount Auto Performance for hooking me up with great forum pricing on these wheels and tires and for putting up with my constant PM's and emails wondering about when they were being shipped and when I was getting tracking info etc.

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And a quick before/after shot:

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VERY NICE!!! Love the new look, those tires fit the level perfect

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The truck looks awesome, great combination. Just got the trail grapplers myself and hope to put the black hostages on soon. This just makes me want to get em that much faster!
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Looks like a totally different truck! Nice job!
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Finally! Haha looks great man. Planning on lifting it at all or no?
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The truck looks awesome, great combination. Just got the trail grapplers myself and hope to put the black hostages on soon. This just makes me want to get em that much faster!
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Thanks guys! I'm very happy with how it's turned out. I think my next exterior mod will have to be getting a painted trim piece for on top of the front bumper and an OEM horizontal grille. I think that will really complete the look.
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Finally! Haha looks great man. Planning on lifting it at all or no?
Thanks! I'm thinking a 6" RCX lift and Bilsteins down the road. But that's gonna cost me a lot more money because I'll want to do power steps at the same time plus I'd have to change out my Airlift bags. I'm happy with where the truck's at right now so it will probably stay this height for a while.... Who knows where it will be at next year or in a couple months though.

I also have some student loans to pay off so I want to focus a little more on that now rather than truck mods. Unfortunately....
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