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I don't have anything to add on the subject of truck vs. trailer, but Forest River puts out a really nice R.V which is why we decided to go with a Flagstaff. Can't go wrong with it!
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2012 Ram 2500
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6.7L I6 CUMMINS® Turbo Diesel
crew | 6'4" | auto |4x4
3.73 axle ratio

Max Payload
2,425lbs

Max Tow
12,700lbs

CURB weight is 7200 pounds with 1 person weighing 150 pounds
GCVW is 20,000 pounds

http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/towing_guide/

if your Ram has a Manual transmission & a different Axle ratio
the weights will change a bit

you mentioned the GVWR
you should also check the GCWR
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Ram curb weight with 3 adults weighing 150 each 7,500 pounds
Unloaded Vehicle Weight 10,894 pounds

10,894
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18,394 pounds

that leaves you 1,606 pounds for your gear

If you get your water at the destination & dump it before leaving, that is quite bit of gear
GCWR was something I was looking at as well, I was just calling it GVWR. I do have an auto with the stock ratio.

I've heard a lot of good things more so about the Cedar Creek line. I'm not looking for super high end, but I'm not looking for overly cheap either. As with my truck, I want a higher end camper, minus a few bells and whistles.

I sold my boat last week, so it's time to upgrade toys.
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Nice trailer. Do you have a fifth wheel hitch installed already? Just curious. I need one and not sure which brand to get. I love the forest river trailers!
I think I've decided to go without the slides, but I'm sticking with the Reese Elite. Autoanything has it for 1400+- with rails. With out discount it gets it to a pretty good price.

This is the hitch I'm looking at
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GCWR was something I was looking at as well, I was just calling it GVWR. I do have an auto with the stock ratio.

I've heard a lot of good things more so about the Cedar Creek line. I'm not looking for super high end, but I'm not looking for overly cheap either. As with my truck, I want a higher end camper, minus a few bells and whistles.

I sold my boat last week, so it's time to upgrade toys.
Check out Palomino, they make a heck of a camper at a very reasonable price considering the features, construction and quality.
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My wife fell in love with a Sanibel today. Very very nice camper, not much more than the Silverback. It would be pushing it for weight though. It would put me 100 over payload, and give or take 1,000 over GCWR.
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My wife fell in love with a Sanibel today. Very very nice camper, not much more than the Silverback. It would be pushing it for weight though. It would put me 100 over payload, and give or take 1,000 over GCWR.

Then you need a bigger truck, or change the wifes mind.

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I don't have anything to add on the subject of truck vs. trailer, but Forest River puts out a really nice R.V which is why we decided to go with a Flagstaff. Can't go wrong with it!
Forst River owns like half of the RV industry.. It is insane at the amount of companys they bought during the recession.

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My wife fell in love with a Sanibel today. Very very nice camper, not much more than the Silverback. It would be pushing it for weight though. It would put me 100 over payload, and give or take 1,000 over GCWR.
Both of those trailers are very nice.
Might I just suggest a few nice fifth wheels..
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http://www.kz-rv.com/stoneridge/photo-gallery.html

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http://www.openrangerv.com/

The durango has been a big seller at our dealership for years, stoneridge is more pricey but does sell.. We just introduced the cougar line to our lot this year (fifth wheel and pull behind) and have loved everything about them. Have also just started carrying the Open Range 'Light' line this year and they selling faster then we can bring em in.. Several factory orders and have had to transfer the light fifth wheels from our other dealerships for sales. Mainly because they are designed for short box 1500's and have a king pin hitch allowing for fifth wheels or goosenecks.
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There was one she liked even more, but I thought it was out of our price range. I think we would just be inside the numbers, but it's doable.

I got a build sheet from Ram, I do have 4.10's, so my GCWR is 22,000. The cargo doesn't change however. The one she really liked was 96,000 MSRP (Yes, I about had a stroke). It's a Cardinal 3800FL. Pin weight of 2100. It has everything but the generator installed. The washer is behind the wheels which is nice, so you don't have a huge amount of weight on the pin. I had them weigh it, it came in around 2200 pin. It was roughly 14000 however.

I can stay under GVWR and GAWR, but GCWR would probably be over by at least a few hundred, probably more like a thousand after it's loaded up (Assuming worst case).

We had decided to order one with most of the options chopped to get it in the mid 50's (Like the $6,000 paint job!!!). But they really wanted to deal with the one on hand. The price right now is around 35% less than they have it listed for. We're seriously considering it.

We looked at the Infinity campers, they are nice, but they are over what I'm comfortable towing. I am going to see if I can find a StoneRidge 38FL to look at however.

We are considering the nicer lines of campers now, partly for the use of my wife's business. If we can turn our vacations into "Work Trips" we can use it has a tax write off as well.

My wife is also a little on the picky side. She didn't like the idea of buying an "ST" truck, to spoiled to her seat heaters rofl

As for hitches, I think I've decided to go with the B&W hitch system. Everyone seems to love it, It gives me more options at a lower cost than the Reese as well.

So far the Silverback and the Cardinal are at the tops of the list. We found a Montana High Country that was fairly nice but it didn't quite suit our needs. We really like the front living floor plans, so if anyone has any other suggestions let me know! trying to look at as many as possible so we can make an educated decision.

I should also add, we're planning on using it to live in while we build up our house. My wife wants to buy land in a different state, then slowly build towards what we really want. Would still be weekending it, but it would stay parked most of the time.

Either way, my wife works from home and I work for a company that lets me telecommute as I please, so a camper seems to be in order!
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Wow. All of the Cardinal's I've seen are owned by retirees who've sold their homes to buy them and travel. Very high end and very nice. Please post up some pics when you get the rig.
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Empty and dry are two different things though dry weight is before they add.. interior. Most people think it's just the absense of water.

I like the front living plan 5ers, they seem to be rear heavy with the bedroom being in the back. Seems like you can get a longer camper for less weight up front.

It's just a lot of math that's making my head hurt.

I guess I just need a bigger toy hauler
You can tow the Hilton with that, what a machine.
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