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Old 05-08-2013, 11:13 AM
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Currently have a 2011 Big Horn Hemi with 3.55 rear. Struggles uphill even in tow mode pulling my Forest River 320BHDS just over 36 feet long. Dry weight was thought to be about 7000 when I ordered. After upgrades, fireplace, power tongue jack, power stabilzers ect. it comes in right at 8000 unloaded close to 9200 loaded. Pulls fine on flats and smaller hills however where I live in Iowa is surrounded by pretty decent hills. 60 down and 40 up revving at around 4000 rpm. After just 2 trips I decide I would feel safer and better equiped with an upgrade. Narrowed down to 2012 Hemi Long Box Crew with 3.73 rear. Or 2012 Cummins crew shorty with 3.73. I was wondering if this will be a big enough improvement over the 3.55? Which will pull better the Hemi or the Diesel without the uphill battle? I was hoping the Cummins torque would help with the 3.73 but no real towing experience with a diesel. Or bite the bullet and go with 4.10 in the Cummins and suffer more when not towing. Trailer will be pulled atleast 3 weekends a month as weather permits late Spring to early Winter. Most trips within 3-4 hours of homebase near Omaha NE. (Des Moines, Kansas City, Okoboji) Thanks in advance.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:28 AM
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Go for the Cummins no question! With the amount you plan on towing and the weight that your trailer is you need it. Plus you have to remember a Cummins with 3.73 gears is a HUGE difference from a hemi with 3.73 gears because of where the power and torque is in a diesel (much lower RPM). It will handle that trailer no problem! The hemi with 3.73's would definitely not be a big enough difference. I'd honestly just forget that option altogether.
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Thanks Brandon. With the Cummins would you avoid the 3.42 then which would be better MPG not towing? I assume the 3.73 is the best of both world. The Hemi only has 8,000 miles on the clock and is almost paid for. Wonder what the wife would say to keeping it and just adding to the fleet.
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Yes, I'd definitely go for the 3.73's. The 3.42's would give you slightly better MPG on the highway when you aren't towing. But in the city it won't be very noticeable. In fact if you are starting and stopping a lot the 3.73's will help get the truck moving easier which will probably save you a bit of fuel.

Keeping it and adding to the fleet would definitely be cool!
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The 2500 alone will be a better platform to tow that large of a trailer. Way more stable and keep the sway minimal. Then the torque on the CTD will finish it off. That big of a rig needs a CTD 2500.
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Have not had any sway problems yet, I do run the equilizer hitch but yeah I can tell it is there. Looking forward to making a deal. Trying to stay with the 11-12 to stay away from the DEF but want new. Will have to call my dealer and see if they are willing to give them away yet. Might have to wait till the end of the quarter when they start getting antsie to meet or break sales goals.
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I would certainly get the diesel. You'll see a difference like night and day! That's a big trailer, my friend-very nice!
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Thanks Brandon. With the Cummins would you avoid the 3.42 then which would be better MPG not towing? I assume the 3.73 is the best of both world. The Hemi only has 8,000 miles on the clock and is almost paid for. Wonder what the wife would say to keeping it and just adding to the fleet.

PS: I would strongly consider a new 2500 Cummins with the 3.42 rear axle. Better mileage when not towing and it'll tow three times as better than the Hemi 1500. With the tow ratings of the Cummins, you really don't need the 3.73 or 4.10 for your trailer-most 13 MY Cummins trucks are coming with the 3.42 (no option for otherwise). Just my opinion.

Many on the diesel forums are reporting quite good mileage with the DEF-I wouldn't concern myself with the DEF (it's cheap, particularly considering the expense of the trailer and truck).
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Traded in my 2012 1500 HEMI with 3.92 for a 2013 2500 Cummins with 3.42. LOVE IT! The torque, the turbo, the MPG, the payload, and the towing capacity.

I looked at 2012 2500's but the new 2013 2500's have better tow ratings with the 3.42 gears than a 2012 2550 with 4.10!
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