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Old 05-30-2013, 03:55 AM
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Well that depends... If you're just running a stock engine (no tuning) 87 or 89 is fine (I'd definitely recommend 89 when towing. If you're running any kind of performance tune then you'll require 91 or 93 depending on the tune.
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Try some 100ll avgas it will let the Hemi run like it supoz to, and yayaya the lead is going to do this and that just mix it with 87 50/50 or however you feel comfortable it will run as if it had a tune put on it
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Try some 100ll avgas it will let the Hemi run like it supoz to, and yayaya the lead is going to do this and that just mix it with 87 50/50 or however you feel comfortable it will run as if it had a tune put on it
To everyone else, if you plan to keep your engine running properly over time I would highly recommend you NEVER do this. Leaded fuel in ANY engine that runs O2 sensors and platinum catalysts is asking for trouble, if guys can burn out sensors in a weekend at the track with leaded fuel it's a very short matter of time before you toast your sensors, then your engine will throw codes, mileage will go to hell because O2's not working properly, and platinum catalytic converters will break down and gum up... but sure, it ups the octane

"Makes you feel like you have a tune?" Seriously? Exactly how does this happen? The PCM doesn't advance timing and stock open-loop programming is built to create minimal/zero knock. They don't even recommend running 91 because there's no gains in running higher octane than 89. If they have a programmer and have custom programming for higher octane that's one thing, but you still have to run unleaded fuel.
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To everyone else, if you plan to keep your engine running properly over time I would highly recommend you NEVER do this. Leaded fuel in ANY engine that runs O2 sensors and platinum catalysts is asking for trouble, if guys can burn out sensors in a weekend at the track with leaded fuel it's a very short matter of time before you toast your sensors, then your engine will throw codes, mileage will go to hell because O2's not working properly, and platinum catalytic converters will break down and gum up... but sure, it ups the octane

"Makes you feel like you have a tune?" Seriously? Exactly how does this happen? The PCM doesn't advance timing and stock open-loop programming is built to create minimal/zero knock. They don't even recommend running 91 because there's no gains in running higher octane than 89. If they have a programmer and have custom programming for higher octane that's one thing, but you still have to run unleaded fuel.

I have been reading and following your posts and i would never disagree with you. thanks for all the good info you have posted thank you. you are the man
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Been doing it off and on for last 7 months no issuses yet, I don't run it all the time, as far as running like it had a tune put on it YA I don't have a tuner on mine but the response and power is much better, How you ask ? probably cuz av gas is pure gasoline without additives, its filtered and water checked unlike the piss fuel we buy at stations which does have a lot of water in the storage tanks along with microbial growth and filth and its not mandated to be exactly 87,89,or 93 octane and the ethanol which who knows how much is mixed in the gasolines, Has anyone put av gas in there lawn mower, boat or an older 80s vehical ? pour it in start it up and as soon as the fuel gets into the engine it will smooth out like it was tuned up, ppl say av gas is bad ? ya cuz of the lead but if its soo bad otherwise then why is it in airplanes aircrafts hardest job is accelerating down a runway to takeoff so it has to perform on the ground level as well as at altitude. Do what you wana do say what you wana say im just sharing my experiences with it, iv worked fuel qa at airports so I know what fuel quality is about, Now if we could run E 85 with a tune our hemis would really wake up.
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Been doing it off and on for last 7 months no issuses yet, I don't run it all the time, as far as running like it had a tune put on it YA I don't have a tuner on mine but the response and power is much better, How you ask ? probably cuz av gas is pure gasoline without additives, its filtered and water checked unlike the piss fuel we buy at stations which does have a lot of water in the storage tanks along with microbial growth and filth and its not mandated to be exactly 87,89,or 93 octane and the ethanol which who knows how much is mixed in the gasolines, Has anyone put av gas in there lawn mower, boat or an older 80s vehical ? pour it in start it up and as soon as the fuel gets into the engine it will smooth out like it was tuned up, ppl say av gas is bad ? ya cuz of the lead but if its soo bad otherwise then why is it in airplanes aircrafts hardest job is accelerating down a runway to takeoff so it has to perform on the ground level as well as at altitude. Do what you wana do say what you wana say im just sharing my experiences with it, iv worked fuel qa at airports so I know what fuel quality is about, Now if we could run E 85 with a tune our hemis would really wake up.
Hooo-Boy! I don't mean to hurt your feelings but...you are so screwed up on this matter.
I teach aviation maintenance. Firstly, aircraft engines do NOT require leaded fuel. The problem is, the fuel (avgas) cannot provide the octane level necessary to avoid detonation under all conditions of operation including altitude, turboboost, and mixtures....so refiners (so-far) must add lead to the fuel to deal with that problem.
However, if you put leaded fuel such as avgas in your street vehicle , not only are you ILLEGAL... you are also destroying your catalytic converter ($$$) and sensors. Additionally, you will also suffer the same problems aircraft engines suffer....SHORT ENGINE LIFE. Aircraft engines are reliable not only because of intensive, progressive maintenance $chedule$, but because of MANDATORY SHORT OVERHAUL LIVES. The lead in avgas is one of the major KILLERS of those engines, causing stuck valves, valve seat erosion, burned piston crowns, and sludge in the sumps. (Did you know the typical aircraft engine must undergo an oil-change each 25-50 HOURS of operation? Even the most advanced filtration systems used in aircraft engines require piston engines to undergo oil/filter changes at least every 100 hours!)
Back when lead was common in auto-gas...(remember back in the 60's and 70's and prior?)... car engines typically were worn out at or well before 100K. This is due to the sludge and abrasive effects of lead. Remember when spark plugs lasted only a few thousand miles? Again, ...lead killed them with deposits and glass-hard bead buildups.
Modern autogas, while it isn't perfect and contains ethanol... nonetheless, modern autos are built to use it. Leaded avgas will KILL your car and it's EPA equipment.
Did I also mention it is ILLEGAL? Get caught and let us know what that costs you (if your local jail allows inmates use of computers.)

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I typically use Stabil Marine formula (blue/green in color) with most tank fills to combat the ethanol related problems. Every 3K I add Seafoam or Techron to the fuel, to clean any crud build-up in the fuel system, especially the injectors.
Additives, I only use Seafoam in my gas tank. 1 can with fill-up 2 times per year or every 5,000 miles.

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I have used the Chevron Techron and yes it made a difference for a while and I did get better gas mileage. Looks like twice a year for me..
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The Chevron Techron always gets the best reviews in the industry. You don't even have to go buy a can at the parts store... all you have to do is occasionally fill up at a Chevron station.... and that's about the cheapest injector cleanup job you'll ever get.

BTW, excessive cleaning of injectors happens to be THE most common reason for rejects. They are damaged by excessive mechanical and chemical treatment.
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