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A buddy and both have 2013s with Hemis. Are tuners really worth it? What experiences have people had with aftermarket performance add ons?
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I think only bullydog has released tuners for the 2013...and I don't know if they are "bug-free" yet. You might want to sit and wait until the tuning is perfected because even with the 2012s it was a little hairy when the tuners first came out. A lot of sending units back or a lot of updating devices to fix bugs.

But as far as "what experiences have people had with aftermarket performance add ons" that is very vague and really what a major part of this forum is about.

It depends on what you want out of your truck. Some people start buying all this stuff expecting to make a drag truck that they can stomp all over any other truck out there and honestly only a few succeed with A LOT of money and work. So the others that don't succeed will get disappointed and think these trucks are just dogs because they didn't get what they want. But at the same time, a few guys who you can tell did their homework and dropped a lot of money on their trucks stop eventually a say there is a lack of aftermarket support to make these trucks do anything worth bragging about. So they put their truck back to stock and move on to a more rewarding build.

But that's me taking the extreme version and assuming you wanted to go all out and mod your truck to be a monster.

If you are talkin mild upgrades, a lot of guys do the "big 3"

Tuner - to answer your question, yes most say they are worth it. IF and ONLY IF you don't overshoot your expectation. Don't think you are gonna gain 150HP and a ass load of TQ like the diesel guys get by doing simple changes like this. Most report better shifting, a few MPGs, and like having the read outs and a code reader. You can also do 0-60 times, 1/4 mile times, read gauges and things like that.

Exhaust - the stock exhaust is restrictive as hell. change it. make your truck sound like a man drives it.

CAI - the theory is to make your engine "breathe" better. So a better intake and free-flowing exhaust in theory accomplish this. however, most say the stock intake on these trucks is efficient as it is. That changing to an aftermarket CAI really only makes a difference at first and ends up being aesthetic and for sound. Which some people like.

Then you get into headers, and cams, and ported throttle bodies, and things of that nature.

Any ONE of the above mentioned "mods" by themselves...you won't see anything noticeable from (except a tuner, which is why they are recommended so much)

BUT combined and tune correctly...a lot of these mods will be satisfying as like as you know what their limits are. Don't say "oh, I added a CAI which is 30hp, a tuner which is 35hp, a TB which is 40hp..so I must have 105hp extra now!" not how it works. which it seems like a lot of guys get on here expecting.

I'm blabbing, but your question was vague so I tried to hit some common things that arise on this forum when it comes to modding these trucks.
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^Well Put^ I started with the AFE Stage 1 intake. Good sound, a touch more power (barely noticeable). Then added a catch can and went with the Diablo Sport inTune, and paired with that intake, that's performace you can feel. But these "big 3", as previously mentioned, don't have magical powers, you're not going to be setting any records. Know what you want out of your truck and have realistic expectations. But regardless of your destination, these are a very good start.
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I think only bullydog has released tuners for the 2013...and I don't know if they are "bug-free" yet. You might want to sit and wait until the tuning is perfected because even with the 2012s it was a little hairy when the tuners first came out. A lot of sending units back or a lot of updating devices to fix bugs.

But as far as "what experiences have people had with aftermarket performance add ons" that is very vague and really what a major part of this forum is about.

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But that's me taking the extreme version and assuming you wanted to go all out and mod your truck to be a monster.

If you are talkin mild upgrades, a lot of guys do the "big 3"

Tuner - to answer your question, yes most say they are worth it. IF and ONLY IF you don't overshoot your expectation. Don't think you are gonna gain 150HP and a ass load of TQ like the diesel guys get by doing simple changes like this. Most report better shifting, a few MPGs, and like having the read outs and a code reader. You can also do 0-60 times, 1/4 mile times, read gauges and things like that.

Exhaust - the stock exhaust is restrictive as hell. change it. make your truck sound like a man drives it.

CAI - the theory is to make your engine "breathe" better. So a better intake and free-flowing exhaust in theory accomplish this. however, most say the stock intake on these trucks is efficient as it is. That changing to an aftermarket CAI really only makes a difference at first and ends up being aesthetic and for sound. Which some people like.

Then you get into headers, and cams, and ported throttle bodies, and things of that nature.

Any ONE of the above mentioned "mods" by themselves...you won't see anything noticeable from (except a tuner, which is why they are recommended so much)

BUT combined and tune correctly...a lot of these mods will be satisfying as like as you know what their limits are. Don't say "oh, I added a CAI which is 30hp, a tuner which is 35hp, a TB which is 40hp..so I must have 105hp extra now!" not how it works. which it seems like a lot of guys get on here expecting.

I'm blabbing, but your question was vague so I tried to hit some common things that arise on this forum when it comes to modding these trucks.
I agree with all of this. Let me add something to the exhaust part. I'm of the belief that if you make your truck deeper and more powerful sounding it will seem faster. There is something psychological that goes on there that is hard to explain. I'm not saying don't get a tuner, but exhaust is not nearly as expensive. Just my .02.
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gonefishin has your answer.. I noticed a small improvement with my S&B CAI but nothing to wow over other then looking awesome.. My Diablo Trinity has helped improved my trucks performance and MPG in noticeable improvements. And well.. Flowmaster super 44 just makes my truck sound damn awesome and sound fast even when just cruising.
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Hello I am wondering if it is worth buying a tuner such as a bullydog or diablo since all I am looking for is more MPG's.
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Hello I am wondering if it is worth buying a tuner such as a bullydog or diablo since all I am looking for is more MPG's.
Right now the only tuner out for the 2013's is the Bully Dog GT for Hemi Plus. Diablosport does not currently support 2013 Rams.

But yes, a tuner will give you better fuel economy. Bully Dog does guarantee an increase with in 1 month or they will give you a full refund. Most people report an increase of about 1-1.5 MPG with the tuner.
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Right now the only tuner out for the 2013's is the Bully Dog GT for Hemi Plus. Diablosport does not currently support 2013 Rams.

But yes, a tuner will give you better fuel economy. Bully Dog does guarantee an increase with in 1 month or they will give you a full refund. Most people report an increase of about 1-1.5 MPG with the tuner.
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Haha, this is true. I was going to put a comment in there about that.... but I figured I'll give the guy some hope.

jawx02, as long as you drive your truck nicely with a tuner you'll get better mileage.
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Hello I am wondering if it is worth buying a tuner such as a bullydog or diablo since all I am looking for is more MPG's.
Keep you foot out of the gas, keep your tires at max recommended pressure, use a good synthetic oil. Forget about the tuner. For $500 bucks it will take many years to recoup any gains, if any can be had with a tuner. A Tuner will run your truck leaner, your could burn your pistons.
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