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I know this topic is beat-to-death, but I see many opinions on this and haven't seen much follow-up. I have a 2012 1500 CC with stock rims/tires. I am interested in just leveling it. Based on a lot of feedback here, I'm leaning towards Hell Bent Steel 2" kit. I called two very reputable 4x4 shops for an installation quote. One gave me a price but the other's answer made me stop in my tracks. They said they won't even consider installing a leveling kit on any Dodge Ram. Again, this is a very reputable shop specializing in 4x4 truck modifications. Is there any proven risk using these kits? Is it not worth it? Again, I don't want to lift it, only level it. Thanks all.....
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2" is the highest most will do, anything more than that screws up some geometry. And 2" doesn't even level it, there will still be a bit of rake.
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2" is the highest most will do, anything more than that screws up some geometry. And 2" doesn't even level it, there will still be a bit of rake.
That depends on the factory rake... 2" is perfect for some.

OP, there are literally hundreds of guys running leveling kits on their daily driven Ram 1500's and they don't have issues at all. I installed mine on my truck a week after buying it and never ran into a problem. As long as it is installed correctly and you get a good front end alignment done afterwards you will be good to go.

To determine what size of a kit you want you should measure all 4 corners of your truck and find out what your factory rake is. From there you will know what kit to order in order to level your truck. Keep in mind you want to retain at least 1" of rake to avoid looking nose high.

I highly recommend going with Bistein adjustable struts over a leveling spacer. It is more money but you won't regret it one bit. It is a much better way of leveling and is easier on your front end parts. Plus the Bilsteins will give you a better ride than stock.
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Thanks. I was just looking for some more "it's ok to do" posts like this. The shop that refused to do it specifically on Rams scared me a bit. I'll look into the Bilsteins. I was trying to be more budget friendly but the one reputable shop that will do it only uses Ready Lifts, which are a few hundred bucks anyway. I'll grab some OT this week and offset it a bit. By the way, I did measure and 2" will keep about a 1/2" rake which is fine with me.

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Thanks. I was just looking for some more "it's ok to do" posts like this. The shop that refused to do it specifically on Rams scared me a bit. I'll look into the Bilsteins. I was trying to be more budget friendly but the one reputable shop that will do it only uses Ready Lifts, which are a few hundred bucks anyway. I'll grab some OT this week and offset it a bit. By the way, I did measure and 2" will keep about a 1/2" rake which is fine with me.
that's perfect. I'd get the bislteins and set them at 2.1". see if your shop will install them. if not, they are easy to install yourself if you have even the slightest bit of mechanical knowledge and average tools.

i've come to find out dodges to have some pretty shitty front ends but oh well. Not bad enough to say NEVER install a level kit on it. So many guys running them with no issues. I have bilsteins on my truck with 35"s. it won't hold an alignment for crap but I think that's either my tires or I bent something messin around off-road.

there even isn't anything wrong with the hell bent steel spacer if you can't scrounge up the couple extra bucks for bilsteins.
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I've installed both the Bilsteins and the HBS kits on trucks belonging to friends. The HBS is great for what it is and for the money. The only thing I don't like about it is that you end up with the potential for enough droop to stress CV's and ball joints. But, that is "potential for", not any kind of guarantee it will happen. A guy I work with that I installed the HBS on his '12 Sport, never does any offroad, just drives on some dirt roads on the weekends hunting and fishing or whatever. Chances are he'll never droop out his front end enough, or often enough, to cause any problems.

For somebody who might be doing a bit more wheeling, a bit more often, I personally would recommend the Bilsteins for potentially greater longevity of ball joints and CV's. Again, that is "potentially", no guarantee that a guy won't wear out parts just as fast with Bilsteins.

I do like the ride of the Bilsteins better though. A bit more firm than stock, in my opinion, but without being harsh at all - just more controlled and feels more connected. I like them.

The biggest difference between installing them, is you need to compress the springs and disassemble the coilovers to install the Bilsteins. Not a problem with just a few basic tools that can be had pretty cheap at Harbor Freight.

I haven't installed the Ready Lifts on anything. But I've run Rancho shocks on a couple different trucks and liked them quite a lot. I bet the Ready Lift's are as nice as the Bilsteins.

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I just purchased a set of Bilstein 5100 Series Ride Height Adjustable - Front shocks from "AutoAnything" (http://www.autoanything.com/suspensi...FZRj7AodJ2EAlg)

Shocks were about $100/each, but I received a 10% discount by asking the autoanything.com chat rep, so it resulted in $20 off. So, shocks were $180, FREE FEDEX shipping, and my local shop will install them for $75 as soon as I get them in.



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I forgot to add some info.... I will take some before and after front/side view pics of the project for the ram team to take a look at.

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Thanks...You just convinced me. I also just read the reviews on the AutoAnything site and this seems the way to go. I will definitely take before and after shots.
One more question...I see they are adjustable - are they adjustable after installation or do you have to pick the height during installation?
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