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Old 04-06-2015, 04:51 PM
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Just picked up a new 1500 in black. Took it to a highly reviewed car wash for its first cleaning. Post wash I noticed many swirling light surface scratches in the paint. Took it back and they buffed them out. Told me that likely there was some debris on the rag that was used to dry the truck. Manager also said that its common to see this on a black paint job. Is this an unavoidable consequence, or was he trying to shirk responsibility for the issue?

What's the best way to wash without paying hundreds for a detailing hand wash?
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In my opinion, he is correct, black will often end up with swirls in it. The best way is to use a touchless car wash and dry it your self.
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Its not hard but I prefer to do it myself and don't trust other people to use the proper tools and techniques. Make sure to use a micro fiber wash mit and do a good pre rinse to get all the lose dirt off.
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Thanks. I just found a sticky thread on washing and it seems that swirls are inevitable on a black truck. I have no problem washing/waxing/polishing myself once in a while, but I want to keep it looking clean, and don't want to have to go through that whole process weekly. Ive been reading about the issues that self service washes have. Just don't know what to do for a quick clean.
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I'd never recommend a car wash, but if you have to use one make sure it is touchless. Every time to touch your paints surface your going to leave a mark of some kind. Some will be much more noticeable than others. If you go to the Section about "Washing and Waxing" there is a ton of information about proper washing tech. and what type products to use. Pay close attention to what "Primo" says and recommends as he really knows his stuff and he has used all the products he recommends.
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The RAM clear coat is very soft compared to some other vehicle manufacturers. You'll notice swirl marks show up way more easily then a new Toyota for instance.

In order to get rid of those swirls, you actually need to cut into the clear coat. If you go to a very reputable detailing/paint correction place, they'll use a rupes polisher or something similar to completely remove those swirls.

Normal buffing and wax may simply hide the swirls, but they'll show up in a few weeks.

I did a little bit of research and found a place called Detail Force in your area. They have a product called CQuartz Finest. The reason why I looked for a detailer that had the product is because they only allow 1 detail shop in a 50 mile radius to use this product. The shop that sells this product are very reputable. I would suggest you call up the shop. They'll probably put your truck under some bright lights to show all of the imperfections, and they'll be able to correct it all.

Here is a link to their shop https://instagram.com/detailforce/

You may have to pay a few hundred to get it polished and have Cquartz etc.. applied, but you wont need to wash it nearly as much, and it protects the paint with a glass like surface. You could also go with a product like xpel which looks like a screen protector for your truck. Its self healing etc..

I found a 50/50 picture of their work. It looks pretty good!

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and you get swirls due to improper washing methods. If people aren't using a 2 or 3 bucket method to wash the vehicle or not removing contaminants from the paint before touching the surface etc.. You'll get swirls. 99% of car wash places that touch your vehicle, even hand washes will swirl it.
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What's the best way to wash without paying hundreds for a detailing hand wash?
Welcome to the world of the 'Sneaky Black' they look fantastic
but there is a price to pay, mostly manual labor

I'd suggest to start you wash and dry the truck yourself.
after that have it in a cool out of sunlight place, then lightly
run your hand not pressing hard and if you feel anything but
smoothness I'd then suggest a clay bar, it's not hard but it involves
some time just follow the directions.

If your not into all of that, wash it, wax it then find 3M pink swirl
remover I can't say anything about the newer stuff for black paint
but I've used the pink stuff for years without any complaints just
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I recommend lots of practice. Come over, wash mine, then dd yours, so this every week and you will always be able to tell what your truck will look like, when you get done with mine, and before you damage yours.
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My truck has only ever been hand washed. I'll use a wand wash if I have a lot of mud from off roading or something that I need to remove, but then hand wash later. Any wash that contacts your paint will have grit in the pads or brushes that will swirl your clear coat, and the touchless ones leave a film of dirt that you can see if you rub your finger over it. I hand wash and wash all my towels and mitts and stuff right after.
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