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Old 09-18-2013, 10:54 PM
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People on this forum love the 5100s. However, this love is not shared by everyone. I've heard Bilstein has been bought and sold many times over the last several years and the quality has gone to pot. A guy I know whos ran a 4x4 shop for the last 30 years said the same thing. Any truth to this?

Another shop told me 5100 adjustables in the front will give me a stiffer ride than factory?

If i decide to get a lift (4 or 6) in the future are the 5100's still able to be used?

I know theyre better than spacers, but do they cause any excess wear on front end? (Yet another shop told me they will)

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Well I can't speak of the Bilstein companies quality being bad. But I will comment on running 5100's all the way around with my front adjustables set at 2.1", The ride over humps, bumps, and potholes are much more comfortable and controlled than with the stock. I compared the compression rate side by side and have to say the stock/OE is a bit softer than the Bils. As for the rebound side, both were fairly even. My conclusion to the Bilsteins is that they have a more sportier feel when used as a leveling strut and when going over bumps or railroad tracks, have a lot less steering input/wander from the impact unlike the OE in which the jolt can become quite rough. Everyone has a different need or feel from their vehicle. Do the Bils fit my driving needs, yes. Will they meet yours, only you can decide that for yourself. Rancho makes nice leveling shocks as well so they might work for you. Just don't believe everything you hear from shop techs because their needs for truck suspension could empty your wallet.
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Great Response. Rancho makes adjustable to level out the rake? I heard the firmness was adjustable, but not the height. Is that incorrect info? I'm feeling lost.
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Good post by Gantman above.

I agree that the Bilsteins offer a much better ride than stock. I had them with my 6" RCX lift on my 1500 and loved them. Very nice and smooth and like Gantman said, more of a controlled feeling than stock. So that answers your question about using them with a lift as well. Tons of guys do for additional front end lift.

Leveling a truck will cause slightly more wear on front end parts, that's just how it is. But using Bilsteins is way easier on everything than using a leveling spacer because they prevent the suspension from over extending.

Overall the Bilsteins are the best way to level a Ram. You won't be disappointed.
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Thanks Guys....so if I understand right....Bilsteins will still cause (minimal) excessive wear?

The bilsteins are HEIGHT adjustable, but are the RANCHOs? I know theyre firmness adjustable, but are the height? Or do they have a "stock" height that eliminates the rake?

I like that the Ranchos are an easy swap. Nobody around here will install the Bilsteins less than $575 (including alignment)
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Installing the Bilsteins is easy. The only difference between installing them and the Rancho's is that you need to disassemble the factory coil over and move the spring to the Bilstein. Buy or rent a half way decent spring compressor and this is not hard at all to do.

As far as I know, Thyssen-Krupp still owns them, same as they have for as long as I can remember.

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Good thread. I have the same questions about leveling mine.
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OK....bought the Bilsteins. What setting?
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OK....bought the Bilsteins. What setting?
Depends on how much rake you want to take out. There is a popular myth that 2.8 will set you nose high. Not possible. Might look that way but there will still be a bit of rake.
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As far as the Rancho's go, from their website, the Quicklift Loaded strut assembly is set at 2.25" fixed. That is the cool thing about these because it's just a swap of strut assemblies. Some Ram owners here use them and like them a lot. And yes, it does have a dampener adjustment for ride stiffness. At a Bilstein 2.1" setting, a slight rake is present for those of us that tow and don't want the nose high effect. At the 2.8" setting, some Ram owners have thrown in a 1-1.5" rear coil spacer to combat the nose high look. Hope this helps a little and please, we want before and after pics bud!
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