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Old 08-10-2013, 11:14 PM
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Don't listen to truck reviews, until people realize how to review trucks.

15 years ago, if you told people that $50k 1/2ton luxobarge trucks would be common, they would of laughed at you, and said you were insane.

In those 15 years, Trucks have changed drastically. There are now 3 completely separate truck demographics -- People who need trucks, people who kinda need trucks and people who just want a damn truck.

Really, it is IMHO that the 2007 Toyota Tundra changed the game for ever. Toyota put out a truck that drove like a car 99% of the time. It didn't shatter any sales records -- but manufactures started to that market of people who sorta need a truck, and people who just want a nice truck exists.

Since then, really, Ford is the only manufacture that errors more on the side of "Make it feel like a Truck" -- And they do that Well. Toyota has gone full 'Drive like a car' -- Chevy is heading that direction with the 2014, and Dodge has been heading that direction the last few years as well.

And Guess what, you're seeing more Dodge/Toyotas in driveways that use to have 4-door family cars/SUV's, and I expect to start seeing more silverado's joining them too.

This is where the reviews have problems. They never split these demographics. Seriously, have you EVER seen a truck article talk about baby seat fitment in the same breath as which nav has the most offroad trails on it? Nope. Or, ever talk about which one is easiest to carry groceries in? Nope. Trucks demographics are more diverse now than ever -- but yet truck reviews are not.

My issue is this. Trucks demographics are splitting. What is best to tow a 10,000lb boat every week is not the best truck for taking a family of 4 to soccer practice every day and tow a 10,000lb boat once a year. Depending on which side of that need you're on, the "Winner" of a truck comparison differ greatly.

What will really be interesting is seeing how the 2014 RAM w/ Diesel stands up in reviews. If it gets a legit 20/25 like they claim, You'll really start to see an interesting demographic of people buying trucks who you never thought would.
not quite. trucks started becoming more car like long before 2007. trucks started becoming popular in the early eighties. that is when the demographics started to change. they became a family vehicle withe the addition of the rear seat. at this point, the public wanted a truck image with luxury thrown in.
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One thing on the video that made me laugh is when they were slamming the doors and hood and everything flapped around on the Ford. That annoyed me so much with the '13 F150 I had. Granted it didnrt mean a whole lot when it comes to durability but slamming the drivers door on the Ford will make you cringe by both the sound and shaking sheetmetal.
This validated my thoughts as my rental while I was in Vegas last week was an F150. I'd close the door and hear a rattle, thought I hadn't closed it good. Closed it harder and it rattled harder. Kinda weak for a truck, I thought.
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not quite. trucks started becoming more car like long before 2007. trucks started becoming popular in the early eighties. that is when the demographics started to change. they became a family vehicle withe the addition of the rear seat. at this point, the public wanted a truck image with luxury thrown in.
Point of clarification:

You're correct in that Trucks started to get more popular -- For instance, look at the evolution of sport trucks. GMC Syclone -> Chevy 454SS -> Ford Lightning -> Ram SRT10. Each one becoming more insane. These trucks were built solely to appeal to the haul ass, not haul boats crowd.

You're also correct that trucks started to become more car like before 2007. This (in my opinion) was fueled by the SUV craze and the chassis/part sharing of these trucks with full size SUV's.

The reason, I say the 2007 Tundra was a turning point, is that it was the first truck built from the ground up to not be a traditional truck-truck, and designers started to look at how people want to use trucks, not the stereotypes of how trucks should be used.
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This year, with C&D, Chev won and RAM was last.

Last year, with C&D, RAM was first and Ford was last.

I don't have last year's magazine still around... or atleast I haven't found it in the small amount of time I looked for it. But here's this years article scanned. Sorry for the crappy quality, I don't want to tear up my magazine.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxxB...it?usp=sharing

I'd attach it, but I don't have enough room.

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