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Old 08-18-2013, 04:16 PM
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Picked up a nice set of wheels/tires today for dirt cheap. They are 18x9 wheels and 35/12.5/18 Toyo MT's. I have to use some billet wheel adapters, which come between 1" and 1.5" thick. I haven't been able to remove a tire yet to measure the backspacing/offset, but they appear to have roughly a 3.5"-4.0" backspacing. I'm going to bring the truck up about 2.5" to clear the 35's, but wondering if I will have problems getting these wheels/tires to fit?
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should be alright as long as have the right adapters, add that 2.5inch level, you should have very minimal to no rubbing, maybe some at full lock in reverse
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I hope that's the case! My half-ass measurement for backspacing with the tire on was around 3.75"-4.00". Which would be like a -25mm to -32mm offset. I'm afraid they're gonna stick out too far with a 1.25" adapter & 12.5" tires on there.
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You'll need to find out what the actual offset is of the wheels before I can give you some solid info. The wheel should list the offset on the back of one of the spokes....

If they are a -24 or larger you're going to rub, no question. Mine are -12 offset with 35x12.5 Toyo MT's and I rubbed when I had a 2.5" level. It was very minimal and I did get rid of most of it, but it was still there. With a -24 sticking out a half inch further you'll have even bigger problems. Then if you have to use the adapters to make them work you're screwed.... You'll be sticking out about 3.5-4 inches with that set up and you won't be able to turn very far before you either hit your fender or the bumper.
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You'll need to find out what the actual offset is of the wheels before I can give you some solid info. The wheel should list the offset on the back of one of the spokes....

If they are a -24 or larger you're going to rub, no question. Mine are -12 offset with 35x12.5 Toyo MT's and I rubbed when I had a 2.5" level. It was very minimal and I did get rid of most of it, but it was still there. With a -24 sticking out a half inch further you'll have even bigger problems. Then if you have to use the adapters to make them work you're screwed.... You'll be sticking out about 3.5-4 inches with that set up and you won't be able to turn very far before you either hit your fender or the bumper.
I appreciate your comment. What about going with less tall tire (33") be fine? Or maybe a more narrow tire, like a 265?
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Going with a shorter tire would definitely be better for you. It's the height that will make you rub, not the width....

Honestly, your best bed would be to get a set of wheels with the proper bolt pattern so you don't have to use the adapters (I'm assuming that's why you're using them) and then run the 35x12.5's. That's what I would do at least....
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hmmm lots to think about. Thanks again for the input. Just wish I were able to use these wheels since they're the type of wheel I originally wanted on the truck (Moto Metal 951 chrome), on the other hand I also want 35's. So you're probably right on the money with me selling the wheels (5x4.5) and keeping the tires.
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Last question, since I've been thinking about doing a small body lift, like a 1.25" or 1.5", would that work with the level to not rub? I'm gonna run up to a tire shop in awhile & have them measure the wheel.


Edit: Got one of them measured. It is indeed 4.5" backspacing. And of course I noticed today a stamp on the spoke that says "ET -12". Didn't know what ET meant which is why I didn't mention it.

So the breakdown: 18x9 Moto Metal 951 on 5x4.5 Jeep bolt pattern, 4.5" backspacing (-12mm offset), 35x12.5 tire. Now I'm confused on what options I have if I were to use 1" or 1.25" wheel adapters. The size would be perfect for a 12.5" tire minus the wheel adapter width. Guy at Discount Tire urged me not to use a wheel adapter as he said he personally had a wheel come off one.

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Last thoughts before they're sold?
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Definitely not a fan of adapters... They just seem a little sketchy to me. And even with a 1" adapter you're going to run into rubbing issues. I'd be selling the rims and getting some with the proper bolt pattern.
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