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Ya the Air cleaner Plastic Im sorry, Im not to worried about I had plans to but a CAI system on it.
I blows blueish smoke, and the inside of the tail pipes are Black and just lined in sut.
There is definatly more pressure. I didnt knock on it very much but I did a little.
How is it burning so much oil in such little time?
You've got a big leak on the inside. A ring, a seal, something that is letting a lot of oil in to the combustion chamber(s).
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Could it be a blown plenum gasket? or do you think its piston rings? is there a way to check?
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I know for an external leak you can put dye in the oil and find it that way. Internally, I think the only way to check that is to start tearing the motor down piece by piece until you find evidence of the leak.
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^RRJ Is correct IMO^

If the truck sat for any length of time it could be a valve guide seal leaking oil down into the cylinder and fouling #8. However, since #8 is in the rear of the motor you may be able to obtain a spark plug that is one heat range hotter. The front of the motor is exposed to a broader cooling area so one heat range in the rear shouldn't affect the performance adversely. That's probably the best-case scenario. (excessive oil burning/consumption will lead to the cat failing)

Alternatively, you should probably do a compression check in the cylinders to determine if #8 has a lower compression. If the rings in #8 are worn there should be a lower reading in that cylinder and it could be permitting oil to enter the combustion chamber...blue smoke...fouled plug.

If the oil is entering the cylinder from either venue then it is what is probably fouling the electrode on the plug. A hotter plug may be able to keep up with the consumption and burn it off as it enters the cylinder. It will not reduce the oil consumption, but it may increase performance.
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From what I know the truck hasn't sat. it hasn't been smoking lately, it had smoked a couple times, but thinking about it I had just cleaned and sprayed the throttle body. I also when I also just switched it to Mobil Super Synthetic with a quart of lucas oil stabilizer. Could one of those have started some bad news? Also there is no power to the truck, It is the farthest thing from performing.
I have heard that the plenum is a very common problem with the 2nd gens?
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I honestly believe with the audible difference in resonance when you hit the cat converter it's clogged. I would truly start there, especially is as you stated you can hear it rattling when you hit it.
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Ok thank you, A new Cat is defiantly on the list. So Ill pick one up asap. To change the valve seals I would need to pop the heads off?
I have read that the Hughes plenum kit is the best?
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The valve seals can be done by removing the valve covers and pressurizing the cylinders to keep the valves closed. There's got to be a video on You Tube.
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Ok so this morning I went to the parts house and picked up and cat converter and a new downstream o2 while I was at it, so I'll get that done after lunch. I also pulled the throttle body and looked down into the intake and you can see that there is alot if standing oil. I'm thinking I need a new intake gasket?
So I guess I have a new question:
Should I get the regular intake gasket set from the parts house, it is it worth it to get the Hughes plenum kit? Is it worth the extra $100? Will one last/protect better then the other?

Last night I did a compression test, and all my cylinders can back consistan, so I'm thinking my rings are ok. With a consistant compression test, my valve stem seals still could be leaky?
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The Hughes kit will outlast the OEM.

The intake manifold has a plate bolted to the bottom of it and it's made out of tin. The Intake manifold/plenum...aluminum.

The two expand and contract against each other and cause the gasket between them to fail.

Unless you are really modifying the truck, the OEM should be fine for a few years.

If the valves were closed you won't get a reading on the guide seal, but it's not out of the question that the oil leaking from the plenum gasket is fouling the plug. Actually, I'd almost bet on it.

At this point, I'd go with the OEM kit and consider the Hughes in the future.
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