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Old 09-11-2013, 10:43 PM
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That's so true man. My bad. Just the mere name and history of a "HEMI"; that Furd EgoBoost does not even compare. But 450-500rwhp from a Ripp still makes my nuts hard! Ha ha ha!
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I do like the little green flower on the emblem. Looks awesome!
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Much rather have a 5.0 Coyote under the hood of a F-150! Not crazy about the looks of the Ford, unless it's one of the really fancy ones.
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I'll also keep my Hemi over a Eco-Boost. I am not all that thrilled with that turbo. Turbos came out of the racing world, where they were designed to go like hell over short periods of time. How they hold up in real world applications is questionable.

That's not correct. Turbo charging came from WW I military aircraft design, to combat the thin air at altitude.
I use to be nervous about turbo engine also, until I owned a couple for some years, and now I know better. I good turbo setup is very simple and will last for 100's of thousands miles. It's less complex than the MDS setup on the Ram. Don't get me wrong. I'm glad I picked the Ram, but the Ford V-6 torque @ 2,500 rpm's kicks azz on the Hemi's power at that rpm, and that's much closer to where you normally drive the engines speed. Regarding longevity, the 6 only needs to be designed 33% beefier, and then the load on 6 is the same as 8. Still afraid of turbo's think of it this way: The same engine run at a sea level location is similar to the effects of a turbo compared to an engine someone has in Denver, just less numerically.
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I have a real good friend that has the 2nd year the ECO was out. he has racked up 65k miles with NO issues. He only uses premium fuel and hi miles are mainly in town. He is a realtor.

ALSO every vehicle is different. WE dont know the specs of either. OF course if it was a ford commercial/video of course it would win.

NOW turbos have come along way. They are water cooled and oil cooled now where as the earlier ones were just oil.

I am currently at a MB (I am a MB tech) training school learning on the new CLA 45. I will say this thing is awesome. 28 psi of boost on a 2.0L with 10.0+:1 compression. the eng producing 355 HP. ths is technology. DI and turbos is not new to MB. FORD has a issue cause they jumped out there and hung themselves. THEY have no prior exp with this. NOW they have a major issues and have no idea on how they are gonna fix it.

BUT I believe that diesel will over take all this ECO crap. diesel is more efficient in the long run.
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Looks like Motor Trend may have got it right this year:

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/...ine-defective/
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OK article, but I can't take anything serious that is on Fox News. I know two people with the ecoboost and they are happy no probs. I have heard of the condensation issue but I really like the ecoboost. My hemi rocks but if you have a lot of city driving I think ecoboost is the way to go for better mpgs. But like above poster said the 5.0 is a great motor and towing mpgs are pretty much a wash between the 3 motors.
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Yes the Ecoboost will absolutely out pull the Hemi. The problem for ford is that it won't outlast the Hemi. As said before, many, many problems with the turbo's.
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It's too bad Ford is giving turbocharging a bad name. The concept is right. They just have to man up and fix the accessory problems. 420ft/lb @ 2,500 rpm's with pump gas is worth fixing.
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I think the GDI technology is great. It's the application and implementation that is the problem for Ford. Remember when GM started putting diesel's in passenger cars? We all know that diesel technology is fine but they made some stupid mistakes in how they converted gas engines into diesel and they didn't last.
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