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Old 09-10-2013, 11:30 AM
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In the first week with my new truck, I installed Bilsteins on all four corners, TCG .750 spacers in the rear and AirLift 1000 air bags inside the coils, along with a WirelessOne compressor/controller kit for inflating/deflating the air bags. Then I took it on a couple of drives and put a little over 500 miles on it to get a feel for it and break in the rear end for towing.

Then, last Friday, after having the truck for about 10 days and with just over 500 miles on it, it was time for the first trip towing the travel trailer with it.

Here is the truck with about 850 pounds in the bed (but no trailer hitched yet) and the air bags inflated to 30 PSI.



The stance is not too bad, especially considering the door jamb sticker payload on this truck is only a pathetic, miserable 800 lbs.

I took it for a short drive with just the load in the bed to see how it handled, and it handled just fine - no unusual sway or bounce, stopped well etc.

Came back and hitched up the travel trailer. It's 26' from bumper to ball, GVWR of 5600 pounds, weighed at 5200 actual, tongue weighed at 700 lbs. Here is the truck with the trailer hitched via Blue Ox WDH.



Again, stance is not too bad. And again, especially considering the absolutely embarrassingly weak and pathetic payload rating of this truck. Careful before and after measurements show the front wheel well sitting almost exactly the same as when unloaded, the rear sitting about 2" lower than unloaded. Obviously, the WDH and AirLift bags are doing a good job. At least when just sitting in the driveway...

So, out onto the open road we went. From our home north of Salt Lake City, up into the Uinta mountains. The trip was about 265 miles round trip, including several long steep grades, elevations as high as 10,000 feet and about 40 miles of dirt road - with the last bit near camp being quite rough (I had to use 4WD to get out...).

I was very well pleased with how the truck handled this load under these conditions. Maintaining speed on the steep grades was a simple matter of deciding how much fuel I was willing to suck down in order to go faster. I kept it mostly in the 60-70 MPH range for most of the way. Temps in the valley when we left were about 95*, I watched the trans and oil temp guages motoring up the grades and they didn't climb or fluctuate at all. None of the gauges ever showed any drama. Sway was minimal, never had enough sway to really even notice. The integrated trailer brake control worked perfectly. It was raining heavily the whole ride home and I never felt the least bit of unease with how the truck and the braking systems handled coming down a 6% canyon grade in the rain. The ride, with all this load, rear tires at 70 psi, airbags at 30 psi and WDH etc., was firm without being harsh and felt very well controlled. Surprisingly smooth on the dirt road too. Just about perfect, really.

MPG for the entire round trip came out to 9.1 MPG (hand calc'd). Not any worse than I was expecting. And not too bad, really, considering the load, the grades and the speed that was maintained.

All in all, I'm pretty happy with how well it did.

Note - yes, I know, I'm exceeding the payload rating of my truck. But, considering how ridiculously low and weak the actual payload rating is, if I get constipated and don't get off a decent morning poop, I'm going to be exceeding the payload rating of this truck. Really, I'll only be loading and towing this heavy, maybe three times a year. If I thought I'd be needing to haul this much very often, a Ram 1500 would not have been a viable option to even consider. For occasional use though? I think it will do just fine. And of course, much better than fine all the times in between when I'm within, or at least not much over, the payload rating.

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Old 09-10-2013, 11:40 AM
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looks like a nice rig.

800lb payload rating is an embarrassment, you can't even have 4 people in there.

my CC 4x4 sport is more like 1200lbs which is all I need so it's fine and I like the smoother ride as the compromise

I would like to ask Ram why is it so low on your truck? just because of the coils?
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Old 09-10-2013, 11:43 AM
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Wow those are low payloads, mine is 1480lbs. Crew cab must add a lot of weight.
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Old 09-10-2013, 11:51 AM
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I would like to ask Ram why is it so low on your truck? just because of the coils?
The coils are, I think, the basic reason Ram 1500 payloads are so pathetic compared to say the Ford F150 payloads.

The reason mine is lower than yours, is simply that every ounce added to the truck at the factory, gets deducted directly from payload. So, my 6'4" box - that extra bed length directly reduces payload. My sunroof? Comes out of payload. Ramboxes? Big hit to payload.

Hell, I bet the ginormous ugly plastic "Longhorn" signs that are plastered on the front doors of my truck reduced payload...

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Old 09-10-2013, 11:55 AM
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Wow those are low payloads, mine is 1480lbs. Crew cab must add a lot of weight.
it's not only the crew, it's all the other stuff as well.

both our trucks are really loaded, I have just about everything on my sport including the ramboxes, hence the 49K price tag

I knew I wouldn't be able to haul 1500-2K in the bed when I bought it and also I don't need to.

My 2010 Tundra could take a bunch of weight in the back without even squatting, but rode like a 3/4 ton truck.

I like the ride of the Ram better enough to live with the lower rating, I think my DC tundra was rated at 1500 or something, my Ram is 1200ish although its a crew instead of DC. I'll take the 300 lbs less in order to have ride that's WAY BETTER

now, 800lbs is really, really low.

that said, if I was going to overload one of them, it would be the tundra.
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Old 09-10-2013, 12:10 PM
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how do they explain not even being able to carry 4 guys in the truck?
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how do they explain not even being able to carry 4 guys in the truck?
Honestly, we've had these discussions several times already. The Ram 1500's have terrible payload numbers. I knew that very well before I bought it. The payload rating on my truck is what I knew it would be. If I expected it to be a problem, I wouldn't have bought it.

The point of my posting this thread, was not to re-hash all that again.

But simply to share how well the truck actually did in the real world, hauling and towing about as much as I ever intend to throw at it.

Point being, I'm actually quite happy with how well it performed and believe it is going to fill my needs well.

But if you guys just want to have another "why does the payload suck" thread, that's fine too. I'm going to skip it though. Already hashed all that out before I ordered the truck.

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Old 09-10-2013, 01:18 PM
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Honestly, we've had these discussions several times already. The Ram 1500's have terrible payload numbers. I knew that very well before I bought it. The payload rating on my truck is what I knew it would be. If I expected it to be a problem, I wouldn't have bought it.

The point of my posting this thread, was not to re-hash all that again.

But simply to share how well the truck actually did in the real world, hauling and towing about as much as I ever intend to throw at it.

Point being, I'm actually quite happy with how well it performed and believe it is going to fill my needs well.

But if you guys just want to have another "why does the payload suck" thread, that's fine too. I'm going to skip it though. Already hashed all that out before I ordered the truck.

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nah, I just got side tracked.

glad to hear your happy with the truck and it performed well. Mine has been good too.

I just got side tracked when I saw 800lbs, that gets my attention every time I see it.

sorry to derail it a bit.
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Good to see that a 4wheeler fit inside the bed with ramboxes!
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Glad that the Ram handled well under those conditions

you mentioned the possibility of getting fined for being over loaded.
California laws suck, but when a patrolman is going down the highway, they are not looking at your vehicle at all, unless you are squatting way too much, swaying, or exceeding the towing speed limit of 55 mph by more then 5 mph. The other exception would be towing in the hammer lane for much longer then necessary to pass.
usually Weight only becomes an issue after an accident
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