Originally Posted by 0321Devildog
Thanks for the input Jersey.
Right now there is a policy debate on the Bully Dog Tuner, but if that gets solved and there policy on there Chrysler tuner goes back to what it was "that it can be moved to another vehicle if the vehicle its on presently is put back to stock and not charge a $250 move over fee/clear the unit fee" and you are not going to do any mods to your truck, and you are not looking to put in a specific tune made by another group (i.e. Hemifever or whitelighting) Then you might be interested with the bully Dog Hemi GT +, it is currently available for the 2013, it will also allow you to disable some stuff on your truck like DRL and some traction control, etc. Also apparently the Stock tunes are very good, I run this tuner on my truck and enjoy it very much, I am just a bit pissed off at this supposed new policy which I will be contacting them again today to see whats up with that. hope this helps.
Here is the outcome about the policy debate:
Here is the real information, I just got off the phone with Linda, she call the powers that be and check the information that I have given her.
Any Hemi GT + tuner that is installed and linked to some 2011-2012-2013 truck ECU's that when you look at the Bully Dog tuner information in the tuner that gives the ECU info and you see under the VIN# line there is another line that says
This Tuner is Locked with the ECU, and requires to be Hacked by Bully Dog to get it removed and un-linked to the ECU of your Vehicle. Even if you put the vehicle back to stock the tuner is still linked to that ECU, this has something to do with the encryption of the ECU.
If you want to move it to another Vehicle or sell it, and you have under the VIN# that line that says "VIN H" you will need to pay a hacking fee (not a reset fee) but a hacking fee to hack the tuner clear of the ECU data of the vehicle it was on.
This is only Tuners that have this "VIN H" there, any other Tuner synced to a Vehicle that does not have this "VIN H" or is not a 2012-2013 Chrysler product Does not have this Issue and you can move it to another Chrysler Vehicle or sell it after putting the current vehicle back to stock.
To locate if your tuner is linked to a vehicle and its a "VIN H" unit, go into menu, got to show settings and then scroll down to see the VIN# info. If Under your VIN# there is not another Line that says "VIN H" you are ok to put to stock and move it over to another vehicle or sell it.
If you do Have the "VIN H" your stuck and will need to fight this one
I am lucky, I just checked my unit and I do not have the "VIN H"
Here is a confirmation email from Lyle about this that just came in.
This is the response I got when asking about it.
Under the vehicle info on show settings there is a spot for a Vin, and a Vin H. The vin H is the vin number that this tuner has “HACKED”, or unlocked. If there is a Vin in the Vin H on show settings, it needs the $250 transfer fee. If the Vin H is blank, there is no fee required. This mostly applies to the 2012+ Chrysler vehicles. Some 11’s, and not all 12’s, just depends on the ecm.
Linda is new so she may not be %100 familiar with the policy or heard incorrect info. The above is %100 correct though.
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