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Old 10-27-2013, 12:24 AM
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I'm trying to figure out how you would break the boots - mine are very flexible rubber. btw, I changed my plugs and didn't break a one.
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Usually if you take care of this stuff per the scheduled maintenance you won't have any issues, but most people wait longer. On this engine the upper plugs(with the boots) are supposed to be changed at 50k miles, I waited until about 75k miles and tore 3 or 4 IIRC. They just get brittle, also it depends on how much dialectric grease is applied up front.
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you would think that the factory uses dielectric grease, when the assemble them, but its likely they don't
we shouldn't have to pay for their short cuts
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they do use dialectric grease(it was on mine, anyway), but waiting 50% longer than the service interval, with all the heat cycles it just doesn't last that long.
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It's not a defective part. Rubber will fuse to porcelain over thousands of heat cycles. (like stated above). Haven't any of you tried to remove old plug wire boots without a proper plug wire boot tool? 90% of the time if you don't use the tool you will either pull out the wire or the boot will tear and stick on the plug. Try this in an engine where there is no access to this part and you can only remove it by pulling on the top. See what happens.

I have always made a point to grease any plug boot I re install. Prevents busted knuckles and broken parts.

If I was a dealer I wouldn't want to pay for someone's broken coil because they decided to wait until 100k to change plugs that were supposed to be swapped out at 32k.
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You'll get the same response from the other manufacturers...

I had something (don't recall anymore) break on my GMC Yukon, which the dealer was fixing....and ultimately they screwed up something else and had to replace the intake manifold.

No charge to me.

On my Excursion, the dealer broke the thermostat housing. Replaced for free (I later replaced with a billet unit). No charge to me.

Nissan? Same. Toyota? Same. Honda? Same.
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I had something (don't recall anymore) break on my GMC Yukon, which the dealer was fixing....and ultimately they screwed up something else and had to replace the intake manifold.

No charge to me.

On my Excursion, the dealer broke the thermostat housing. Replaced for free (I later replaced with a billet unit). No charge to me.

Nissan? Same. Toyota? Same. Honda? Same.
That's completely different.

If your reread my comments you'll see that I said "It's like that with every manufacturer on these problematic items"

Yes, if the dealer breaks something due to their negligence, they will replace it.
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That's the way it is man. I see it all the time at work, I'll pull the coil up and POP the boot breaks off and sticks to the plug, its no one's fault it just happens. So the owner of the tuck has to buy a new coil or run on seven cylinders.

I really love the people who start saying things like "well the tech took the coil off the wrong way!" Really? Do you realize that UP is the only way they can go to come out? REALLY!!?? Sorry started getting carried away there.
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I really love the people who start saying things like "well the tech took the coil off the wrong way!" Really? Do you realize that UP is the only way they can go to come out? REALLY!!?? Sorry started getting carried away there.
That's the thing, they don't realize. Yes it's a bit of an inconvenience to have the coil possibly break the boot during regular maintenance, but that's also part of the reason you get 310hp out of a 287 cid engine. It's just part of the design, there's no good way to remove it without tearing the boots.
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Exactly...There is literately nothing you can do when removing the coils, if its going to break then its going to break and there's no stopping it. MSD makes 5.7L hemi coils, maybe those are a little more robust?
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