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Old 11-02-2013, 07:32 PM
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Hey everyone just purchased a previously loved 2001 ram 1500 4x4 off road edition , got a great deal on it (i think haha) and it does have a few issues.

The main one I am worried about is the howling noises the rear end is making. So with research and the mechanic I had take a look at it , im assuming it is the pinion gear issue i have been reading up so much on. Seems to be pretty common with these trucks. I called the dealer to see how much it would cost to just look at the truck they said $140, then i just mentioned the word pinion gear they said ohh your looking at around $1800-1900 right off the bat!!!!!!! That was kind of discouraging and not the answer i was looking for so needless to say i am trying to find another route.

Anyways enough back story , what do i do? Find a used complete axle assembly, do i just need a new rear diff, take it to a mechanic shop?

Or buy everything i need myself and have my mechanic friend and I fix it.

Right now i dont even want to drive it until its fixed. All help is appreciated :/

Update: Here is another option as they are close to where i live would this be possible and would they fit right in just unbolt the old ones and put these right in? http://www.ebay.com/itm/261318975029...84.m1423.l2649

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Old 11-03-2013, 01:49 AM
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The dealer quoted way too high for a diff repair. Find a rear end specialty shop in your area and insist on Timken bearings. I bet you can get close to half the dealer quote
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I agree with this ^^^, sounds like to me you could probably get away with just rebuilding your rear end if you have some mechanic skills and more importantly can follow instructions you can do it yourself if your confident. The first thing to do is find all the parts you are going to need, and then if you do not want to do it yourself is to have someone else do it. A great tool for finding anything related to axles, rear ends, diffs, gears is the Diff Wizzard check it out http://bullysperformance.com/pages/y...izzard-23.html
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Another option if you have a tight budget is to go to a local pick-a-part and try and find the whole rear axle from a similar truck.
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The dealer quoted way too high for a diff repair. Find a rear end specialty shop in your area and insist on Timken bearings. I bet you can get close to half the dealer quote
Will be contacting a shop tomorrow morning. I was hoping to get around the $500 price range thats what i have seen some others have said it cost them.

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I agree with this ^^^, sounds like to me you could probably get away with just rebuilding your rear end if you have some mechanic skills and more importantly can follow instructions you can do it yourself if your confident. The first thing to do is find all the parts you are going to need, and then if you do not want to do it yourself is to have someone else do it. A great tool for finding anything related to axles, rear ends, diffs, gears is the Diff Wizzard check it out http://bullysperformance.com/pages/y...izzard-23.html
Since i dont know exactly the issue im having, by purchasing the master install kit i should be able to fix any problem there could possibly be right?
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Another option if you have a tight budget is to go to a local pick-a-part and try and find the whole rear axle from a similar truck.
I have been searching for one locally no luck yet.
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most salvage yards are connected on the internet.
they can find one for you and have it shipped to you
go to www.rockauto.com
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Will be contacting a shop tomorrow morning. I was hoping to get around the $500 price range thats what i have seen some others have said it cost them.



Since i dont know exactly the issue im having, by purchasing the master install kit i should be able to fix any problem there could possibly be right?
http://bullysperformance.com/search/...rd=YKC9.25-R-B



I have been searching for one locally no luck yet.
You best bet would be to get the gears and the master install kit, or as stated find something around you local where you can just get the whole rear axle.
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I went through this with my old 01 Offroad Edition. Howling noise noticeable around 40+ when on the gas and stopped when you take your foot off. The previous owner supposedly had it rebuilt shortly before I got the truck, and I had a receipt, but the shop was out of business.

1. It's almost impossible to find a 4.10 gear ratio 9.25 rear end from a junk yard. I looked all over. They are only available in the Offroad Edition trucks.

2. I had quotes from $1800 from shops saying they'd find me a 4.10 junk yard rear end (I don't know how)

3. O'Reilley's has rebuilt 4.10 rear axle assemblies for $1250 + core.

4. My ring and pinion gears were fine, but I had no preload. The shop did a rebuild using my old ring and pinion for $800.

Good luck with your truck. The front Dana 44 should be fine. In my opinion, rebuild the rear and keep the 4.10 gearing. That's one of the best parts of the Offroad Package and makes turning the 33's easier on the transmission.
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since its an off-road version (same as my 2000) you have the Trash lok...I mean Trac Lok so be ready to find out your trac lok retainers and springs have broken and taken your bearing out, hopefully your ring and pinion is still good but there is a chance that they went bad too. I just got done rebuilding my 9.25 trac lok rear axle. If your trac lok blew a dealer will tell you that you need a whole new assembly which is around $800 or so plus $400-$500 for a ring and pinion plus another $200 for bearings, and around $600-$800 for labor so yea...not cheap.

I got lucky with my rear axle, my ring and pinion were good so I replaced my trac lok clutchs, all the bearings, and some random parts for $200 no labor. An aftermarket ring and pinion shop will probably rebuild the trac lok if yours exploded. Either way your looking to spend over $1000

A way to check if your limited slip is broken in the second gen truck is to put the trans in neutral, lift up the rear axle, turn one tire, if the other tire spins the same way your trac lok is most likely good. If your tire turns the opposite way then the trac lok is broken.

I'm about 99% sure that all off road second gen ram's came with a limited slip...I could be wrong though.
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Well after reading all this, its starting to seem alot more of a process then i thought it was going to be.

I suppose i should just open her up and see what the problem is and go from there. What do you say?

Would this rear end bolt right into my truck?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261318975029...84.m1423.l2649

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