DODGE RAM FORUM - Ram Forums and Owners Club! - Dodge Truck Forum

Go Back   DODGE RAM FORUM - Ram Forums and Owners Club! - Dodge Truck Forum > Dodge Ram Forum - General Discussion > 2013 Dodge Ram Forum


Notices

2013 Dodge Ram Forum For specific discussion of the 2013 Dodge Ram!


Latest Vendor News
AutoAnything
Addictive Desert Designs!
Bayou Goat Mounts

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #11  
Old 11-04-2013, 08:41 AM
KYSEAN's Avatar
KYSEAN KYSEAN is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Kentucky
Age: 55
Posts: 159
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2013 Dodge Ram
Trim Level: Express Crew Cab
Color: Mineral Grey
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:21
KYSEAN is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brandonjansen View Post
First question, did you break in you truck before towing with it?

When pulling that much weight that's just where your RPM is going to be on a gas engine because that's where the power is. That's pretty normal. A 2500 wouldn't be much different in that sense unless you went to a Cummins.
Good way to ruin an engine by towing that heavy without a couple thousand miles on it first.
__________________
Trailer Hitch, Line-X Spray In bed liner, S&B CAI, Magnaflow 22" and Y-Pipe, ARE Hard Tonneau Cover
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #12  
Old 11-04-2013, 09:15 AM
Gantman's Avatar
Gantman Gantman is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ram Country
Age: 45
Posts: 1,963
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2014 4x4 Regular Cab w/8ft bed
Trim Level: Tradesman 4x4
Color: White
Engine: 2013-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 395hp 410lb/ft
Rep Power: 4
Rep:974
Gantman is a splendid one to beholdGantman is a splendid one to beholdGantman is a splendid one to beholdGantman is a splendid one to beholdGantman is a splendid one to beholdGantman is a splendid one to beholdGantman is a splendid one to beholdGantman is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by drcleo55 View Post
Just purchased a 2103 1500 laramine with the 5.7 and 3.92 rear, rated to towed 9900 according to the dodge website and dealer. I plan on towing a 2011 jayco travel trailer that is 5300 lbs dry....probably 6300 with all our crap and I have the wife and two young kids to put in the truck. I had a Chevy Avalanche that was only rated to tow 7200 lbs and i was beating the crap out of the truck so along came the new ram. Towed this weekend for the first time with the ram and Im a bit surprised. Around town, it gets up and goes but I feel like on the highway its no better than the avalanche. Even in tow / haul mode the tranny shifts alot and actually stays in 4th most of the time at just under 3000 rpm and maybe 65mph. I felt like the hemi was screaming at me! Dont even ask about mpg!

Did i make a mistake? Should i have gone with a 2500 instead of a 1500?
I just dont want to beat the hell out of the new ride! Anyone know of some mods that might make towing a bit easier?
I don't think you made a mistake because then every other brand 1/4 ton truck out there must be a mistake as well. I towed 6500lbs every weekend with a 2006 Titan 4x4 CC and got barely 8 mpg but I expected that. Here's a big fact for gassers, they like being in the powerband when towing, which is where you were at, 2500-3500rpm. Don't compare a gas engine to a diesel, which likes to spend its time between 1800-2000rpm. Use your ERS and tow/haul and put your EVIC showing 4th gear. You will be fine brother. And engine break in before towing I believe is around 500 miles, as per owners manual.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-04-2013, 09:20 AM
drcleo55 drcleo55 is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Commack NY
Age: 40
Posts: 35
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2013 Dodge Ram 1500
Trim Level: larmi
Color: gray
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:26
drcleo55 is on a distinguished road
Default

I have the 6 speed, 3.92 rear and the 5.7 l hemi....i was just concerned for long highway trips keeping the tranny in 4th at 2700 - 3000 rpm, 60 - 70 mph for a long time. Tranny temp never seems to go over 128 degrees. The old Avalanche tranny would get to close to 200 degrees! Sure the truck has plenty of power but am i beating the crap out of it? In 5th, any small incline and the truck seems to labor. I have a good weight distribution hitch and dont notice any trailer sway. I guess i should just keep the weight of the contents of the trailer to a minimum. Someone else suggested finding a big rig and drafting behind him (real safe!) but it does make an incredible difference. Good thing the powertrain warranty is 5years / 100,000 miles!! I just cant see buying a diesel 2500 for the 6 - 10 times a year i plan on towing.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-04-2013, 09:28 AM
hydrex's Avatar
hydrex hydrex is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Penobscot, Maine
Age: 63
Posts: 2,041
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2005 QC 4X4 HEMI RAM
Trim Level: Thunder Road
Color: Mineral Grey
Engine: 2003-2008 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 345hp 375lb/ft
Rep Power: 7
Rep:418
hydrex is just really nicehydrex is just really nicehydrex is just really nicehydrex is just really nicehydrex is just really nice
Default

3,000 rpm with a hemi is nothing. I tow a 10,000 lb 32' fifth wheel Coachman with my hi miles 05. It tows way better than my friend's 01 2500 Cummins, seriously! If I want to haul azz, just step on the gas, very soon you are keeping up with traffic. Ok, it's revving up, but it has power! My friends old Cummins is like a locomotive, it builds up speed very slowly. His Cummins gets only slightly better economy towing. If I want to pass a slower vehicle when I'm towing with the hemi, step on the gas and you're gone. I have 3:92 gears.
__________________
Inertia Spartan Plus cam, Circle D 3,000 rpm stall converter,Sonnax line pressure booster, Vararam, JBA's with cut outs, Borla duals, Rancho 9000's,3:92's, extra rear leaf. 200,000 miles To Hell and back. 14.2/96 mph NEDW
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-04-2013, 09:58 AM
SFVDOC's Avatar
SFVDOC SFVDOC is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Southern California
Posts: 355
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2012 Ram 1500 CC 4X4
Trim Level: Big Horn
Color: Silver
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 4
Rep:83
SFVDOC will become famous soon enough
Default

Keeping the Hemi "on the pipe" while towing is not going to hurt it. But yes it will suck the gas while doing so.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-04-2013, 10:22 AM
drcleo55 drcleo55 is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Commack NY
Age: 40
Posts: 35
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2013 Dodge Ram 1500
Trim Level: larmi
Color: gray
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:26
drcleo55 is on a distinguished road
Default

and yes.....i did break in the engine....owners manual said 300 miles of no hard accelerating and no break in period for the tranny....i waited till i got to 1000 miles before i towed

would a tune help? prob not
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-04-2013, 11:05 AM
venom108 venom108 is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Peoria IL
Age: 30
Posts: 51
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2013 Ram 1500 express
Trim Level: Express
Color: Red
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:10
venom108 is on a distinguished road
Default

Some engines just like to be reved. 3000rpm really isn't a whole lot. The peak hp on these trucks is around 4500rpm. Considering you're pulling something that weighs as much as the truck you should feel it(try pulling your weight in a wheel barrel and see what happens). Diesels are great for towing but you have to add the cost of purchase, extra cost of diesel, and maintenance. Plus the fuel gelling up during the winter if you accidentally get crappy diesel. As long as your tranny temps stay low it's really not a factor how much it shifts.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-04-2013, 11:09 AM
gusman's Avatar
gusman gusman is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Rochester, MA
Age: 25
Posts: 517
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2013 1500 Quad Cab
Trim Level: Sport
Color: Black on Black
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:44
gusman is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gantman View Post
I don't think you made a mistake because then every other brand 1/4 ton truck out there must be a mistake as well. I towed 6500lbs every weekend with a 2006 Titan 4x4 CC and got barely 8 mpg but I expected that. Here's a big fact for gassers, they like being in the powerband when towing, which is where you were at, 2500-3500rpm. Don't compare a gas engine to a diesel, which likes to spend its time between 1800-2000rpm. Use your ERS and tow/haul and put your EVIC showing 4th gear. You will be fine brother. And engine break in before towing I believe is around 500 miles, as per owners manual.
I honestly think my titan towed better than the ram (05 KC Big Tow).. did you get this impression as well? And ya 8mpg both trucks as expected haha
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-04-2013, 11:31 AM
Thunderhorse's Avatar
Thunderhorse Thunderhorse is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Stafford, VA
Age: 23
Posts: 2,411
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2013 Ram1500 4x4 8HP70 3.21LSD
Trim Level: Lone Star Quad Cab
Color: Bright White
Engine: 2013-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 395hp 410lb/ft
Rep Power: 3
Rep:481
Thunderhorse is a glorious beacon of lightThunderhorse is a glorious beacon of lightThunderhorse is a glorious beacon of lightThunderhorse is a glorious beacon of lightThunderhorse is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Doesn't a Titan have more power than an '05 Hemi? If so that would make sense.
__________________
Huskyliner Weatherbeaters, door edge guards, Line-x, Kryptek Typhon Cordura seat covers w/ MOLLE panels (review), Console Vault (install/review) .
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-04-2013, 03:01 PM
2010x3.92 2010x3.92 is offline
Dodge Ram Forum Senior Member!
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Indiana
Age: 27
Posts: 141
Gender: Male
Vehicle: 2010 Ram 1500
Trim Level: Big Horn
Color: Inferno Red
Engine: 2009-20?? 345ci (5.7L) Hemi V8 390hp 407lb/ft
Rep Power: 0
Rep:32
2010x3.92 is on a distinguished road
Default

I occasionally tow my 67 Plymouth on our car trailer. The car weighs about 3700 and trailer around 2200 (older steel deck double frame rail car hauler). My truck has the 2010 version 5 speed transmission and with the car behind it the truck will roll right down the highway in overdrive right around 2000 rpms at 70. It will down shift if it needs to go up a hill but it doesn't act like the old 360 trucks that will downshift and go WOT max rpm.

I tow my boat quite frequently on the highway run to the lake. Mostly flat with rolling grades on the highway. The boat weighs 2400 dry and trailer 800. Add in gear and fuel and such and it tows it with no fanfare whatsoever. OD on the highway with no downshifts and last trip averaged right at 14.2 mpg (evic).

The peak HP on the current Hemi is way higher than the 4500 rpm stated above. Peak HP comes at 5600 I believe with peak torque at 3800. HP doesn't matter in maintaining speed. You ideally want the engine to run at or close to the peak torque output. That number will do the most work for a heavy hauler. That all being said, your hemi wouldn't think about breaking a sweat if it decided it needed to stay at 3000 rpm to maintain speed.

Is it very hilly where you tow? If it isn't even getting the trans temp past 130 degrees you haven't even scratched the surface or working the rig.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Advertisement






All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:31 PM.


= Copyright RamForumZ.com a Gigathreads.com Network Site =Ad Management by RedTyger
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vB.Sponsors


=Gigathreads Network=
CLUBS MOPAR NATION DSM GPMM MAMM JAM
DIESEL Diesel Forum      
CHEVY Chevy Camaro Forum Chevy Volt Forum    
CHRYSLER Chrysler 300C Forum      
DODGE Dodge Avenger Forum Dodge Caliber Forum Dodge Challenger Forum Dodge Charger Forum
  Dodge Circuit Forum Dodge Hornet Forum Dodge Magnum Forum Dodge Nitro Forum
  Dodge Ram Forum Dodge Dakota Forum Dodge Durango Forum Dodge Dart Forum
FORD Ford Raptor Forum Ford F150 Forum Ford F100 Forum  
JEEP Jeep Forum      
PONTIAC Pontiac G8 Forum      
SRT SRT Viper Forum SRT Cuda Forum