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Old 11-04-2013, 04:16 PM
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People who say they can't feel a 5000 lb trailer behind them are lying.

Having towed trailers with everything from an 02 GMC single cab, to an 04 Chevy 2500 Duramax, you can still feel it, not just in acceleration, but also over bumpy roads.
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Just purchased a 2103 1500 laramine with the 5.7 and 3.92 rear, rated to towed 9900 according to the dodge website and dealer. I plan on towing a 2011 jayco travel trailer that is 5300 lbs dry....probably 6300 with all our crap and I have the wife and two young kids to put in the truck. I had a Chevy Avalanche that was only rated to tow 7200 lbs and i was beating the crap out of the truck so along came the new ram. Towed this weekend for the first time with the ram and Im a bit surprised. Around town, it gets up and goes but I feel like on the highway its no better than the avalanche. Even in tow / haul mode the tranny shifts alot and actually stays in 4th most of the time at just under 3000 rpm and maybe 65mph. I felt like the hemi was screaming at me! Dont even ask about mpg!

Did i make a mistake? Should i have gone with a 2500 instead of a 1500?
I just dont want to beat the hell out of the new ride! Anyone know of some mods that might make towing a bit easier?
The tow ratings on ram and all the other half-ton trucks are way over-rated, for extended towing.The weight rating don't take into account sail area of an RV,wind resistance can be as much a drag on the truck as towed weight. I have the same truck and tow a three horse trailer,bumper pull about 6500 lbs. loaded.,does great on fairly moderate terrain.hit a long hill and yep 4th gear and 3500 rpm and about 7 or 8 mpg,if your only towing 50 miles to a horse show,not to big of an issue. I would not tow long distance through hilly terrain. In my opinion most all Rv's need a 3500 ,dual-wheel diesel for efficient ,safe ,long distance towing.
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The tow ratings on ram and all the other half-ton trucks are way over-rated, for extended towing.The weight rating don't take into account sail area of an RV,wind resistance can be as much a drag on the truck as towed weight. I have the same truck and tow a three horse trailer,bumper pull about 6500 lbs. loaded.,does great on fairly moderate terrain.hit a long hill and yep 4th gear and 3500 rpm and about 7 or 8 mpg,if your only towing 50 miles to a horse show,not to big of an issue. I would not tow long distance through hilly terrain. In my opinion most all Rv's need a 3500 ,dual-wheel diesel for efficient ,safe ,long distance towing.
I partially agree with your first sentence. If your towing regularly (80% of the time for example) then yes, they are over-rated. Not because the truck can't take it but because I don't think the engine can. But if your hauling your camper a few hundred miles once or twice a year a half ton truck is more than adequate for most RV trailers. It doesn't make sense for someone to have a 3500 to tow their trailer a few times a year. And then your argument for a dually... I'm gonna go ahead and call complete BS on that one. If you're pulling a huge 5th wheel trailer then yes, you want a dually. But the average guy/RV trailer do not require a dually. I've hauled a 28ft enclosed trailer loaded up full with my 3500 SRW and it's as smooth and easy to tow as could be. I could easily double the weight on the trailer and still feel 100% comfortable and confident in my truck. Definitely no need for a dually.
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People who say they can't feel a 5000 lb trailer behind them are lying.

Having towed trailers with everything from an 02 GMC single cab, to an 04 Chevy 2500 Duramax, you can still feel it, not just in acceleration, but also over bumpy roads.

Agreed! You always know its there!

I think when guys say that it's our way of saying the truck handles it no problem, almost like it's not even there.
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Doesn't a Titan have more power than an '05 Hemi? If so that would make sense.
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Todays engines can take more than you can throw at them on the street. My uncle is in the power train group in Auburn Hills and is a block engineer in the division that mostly deals with Hemi durability testing. The current 5.7 and 6.4 are probably the two most robust engines Chrysler has ever produced. These two engines live very deeply into the hundreds of hours of WOT dyno operation.

At the Detroit auto show a few years back GM had a new CTS-V engine and stated that it had survived 260(give or take for being a while ago) WOT engine operation hours on a dyno. My uncle laughed and informed me that he has regularly seen 5.7, 6.1, and 6.4 engines live well over 500 hours of WOT dyno operation.

His statement was the only possible way to kill a current production engine on the street would be to run it out of oil..

Given, running a hemi balls to the wall will reduce the effective wear life of the engine but it will take all you can throw at it on the street and laugh.

His division uses 60,000+ gallons of fuel a week a the test facility.

They do some awesome stuff like leave engines on a pre set computer program and go home at night. They run all night and compile data and you come in and drink your coffee over an engine that has been pounded on all night.
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I tow all the time with my HEMI, I have a 3.55 on it though. Just finished a trip from colorado to Toronto 5000Km there and back towing a 16 ft enclosed trailer and entire bed full of furniture etc household. I had no issues at all. Gas milage was about 25.4L loaded which was expected. but it was a nice comfy ride.
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For all it,s worth from a old guy, ive pulled trailers from 32ft enclosed down to 8ft and if your serious about towing Diesel is the way to go, ive had 7.3 and 6.0 Fords and 5.9 Cummins and no matter what you do to these Hemi,s they will never pull like the diesels or get anywhere close to the milage. I just sold my PS Ford as im semi retired and dont pull our big trailers anymore but if i did it would be with a diesel.
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For all it,s worth from a old guy, ive pulled trailers from 32ft enclosed down to 8ft and if your serious about towing Diesel is the way to go, ive had 7.3 and 6.0 Fords and 5.9 Cummins and no matter what you do to these Hemi,s they will never pull like the diesels or get anywhere close to the milage. I just sold my PS Ford as im semi retired and dont pull our big trailers anymore but if i did it would be with a diesel.

I traded in a 2010 F350 CC LB with a 6.4. I put 45000 miles on it in 20 months. I think the diesel thing is way over rated. I really like the Hemi. it has plenty of go. diesel was good before the EPA got involved. I dont think I will ever go back to diesel. I like $3 a gallon gas. and the instant response on the go pedal.
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