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Old 02-16-2014, 12:52 AM
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I have been thinking about refreshing the suspension on the truck and have been thinking of lowering it a bit, in the range of 2/4, to make it a bit easier for the wife and kid to crawl in and out of and give me a better handling on the mountain highways.

A local vendor has The Ground Force 9970 kit on sale. The kit lists front torsion bar keys,rear flip kit, shocks, bump stops & hardware.

Has anyone used this kit?

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I have also thought about just buying the parts separately since I don't plan to use the keys, but I have not seen the rear flip kit locally. I'm open to any guidance for this option too.

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Looks like I can get the Ground Force 91142 Lowering Shackle Kit locally and at a decent price. I'm a bit confused by the description "1-1/2" Drop Lowering Shackle Kit will allow you to lower in combinations up to 4''.
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for the 3rd gens since we don't have coil springs in the rear, they combine a shackle with the flip kit to combine to a 4 inch drop. I was about to do this drop and then realized that I would lose the ability to tow my 4wheeler around in the bed. they recommend not going above 500 pounds payload. you can install a air shock system but that wasn't in my budget.

I then opted to go with just a 2 inch lowering shackle for the rear by mcgaughys. it just levels the rear end out and even though it says 2 inch you really only get about 1.5 or so inches (plus only a 70 dollar mod and you can install it yourself)

if you decide to go with the 2/4 look at mcgaughys, they have good reviews for our trucks and a little less expensive....heres a link:

McGaughys Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab 2006-2008 2/4.5 Economy Drop Kit - Part# 44015 (not 100 percent sure if this fits 4x4 but you can check it out if you want)

http://www.mcgaughystore.com/mcgaugh...it-part-44015/

I would also look at getting replacement performance shocks like belltech street performance, they are recommended anytime you go 4 inches or lower I the back
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Looks like the only McGaughys options would be the shackle alone or the kit with spindles that they say has minor clearance issues on 4x4s and does not come with shocks.

Price wise it's a bit more than the Ground Force options as the Ground Force is clearance.
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I've been looking into this same thing. So you're saying the spindles in the front have clearance issues but doing the torsion keys wont? I had a buddy say that messing with the torsion bars can be bad, can anyone confirm this? And lastly I read that if you noth the spindles from McG's that they fit/ they have new spindles notched already so they should fit. Are there pros and cons to this? Which kit is better?
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My understanding is adjusting the torsion bars is safe and quick (15 minutes) but replacing torsion keys is an involved process.

The benefit of torsion keys seems to be a slightly greater range of adjustment.

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The pair I saw did not seem to have pre-notched spindles to accommodate the lower control arms, but they they could be older stock.

In my view spindles are superior as they keep the ride feel stock, use stock length shocks, and they can be combines with torsion bar adjustment to go even lower if desired. There is more work involved than adjusting the bars, but less than installing keys.

Using the torsion bar to lower the truck is like installing softer springs, and has all the same drawbacks. The tension reduction to accommodate a 2" drop is fairly minor, so most of the negative issues can be mitigated with a pair of bump stops and there can be positive side effects like a less bumpy ride.

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My original thinking was to lower the front using the torsion bars for free and if I start bottoming out or don't like the feel pay for drop spindles and the related parts.
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I can't speak to quality but in my view benefits of the McGaughys kit include the ability to retain your existing shocks (uses stock length shocks) and less change in ride feel (camber, spring rate).

Benefit to Ground Force could be inclusion of shocks (if you need and like provided items), and simpler install if you skip the keys.
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