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Old 11-11-2013, 05:04 PM
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Do the 4.7 2 wheel drive trucks use a shallower tranny pan then the 4X4 trucks.
Looking at my owners manual,it looks like a 4X4 tranny needs more oil then the 2 wheel drive tranny.
If they have a deeper pan what all is involved in swapping to the 4X4 pan,i'm assuming there'd be a differant pick-up filter.
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Well that plan went out the window.
Thought i read somewhere the 4X4 and 2 wheel drive trucks used differant tranny pans,but after looking at a buddies 2012 4X4 ,and a couple brand new 14's on the local Chryco lot,they look and measure to be the same pan.
Aw crap,lol
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I'm pretty sure the 2wd and 4wd DO use a different pan (and sump filter). You could just swap to an aftermarket aluminum finned pan with a drain plug, though...
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I measured a few Sean,unless there's an oddball 4X4 pan,all the trucks i checked had the identical pan my 2wd has.
Thought i'd read a post somewhere that they had differant pans,but by my tape measure they're identical.
Only thing i can see is maybe there's 2 pans for the 2 wd drive trucks,and one is a light duty pan,and the other is a heavier duty pan.
Third option i'd thought of,is Chrysler might of standardized the pans in the 13's,and they all have the same pan.

Didn't really figure my little 4.7 needs a aftermarket pan,for the cost,lol.
It doesn't make enough power to hurt itself.

I want to swap out my fluid and filter,figured if there was a deeper pan available i'd put a drain plug in it,but looks like my stock pan's gonna get the plug
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I know there is a difference between 2wd and 4wd, unless like you said they made a change recently. PM member transengineer he will have an answer for you.
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Not gonna argue the point,but take your tape measure to your local dealer and find me the trucks with the deeper pan.
I measured a 12 pan, my 13's pan,and a couple new 14's,they all have the same pan,i believe my tape measure.
All that i checked besides my 2 wheel drive,were 4X4 1500's
Like i said,maybe there's an oddball 4X4 pan,but i didn't find anything on the local dealers lot any differant then what i already have on my truck.
When it quits snowing and warms up a bit,i'm gonna go back by the local dealer and see if they have any 2500's or heavier with the 6 sp,they might have a differant pan,as i didn't check any of them the day i was crawling under trucks.
Did notice something on the 14's though,they seem to have more clearance between the cross over exhaust pipe and the tranny pan then the earlier 4X4's i looked at.
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Like I said there may have been a change. I know there is or was a difference because the sump filters and (I believe) pans are different part numbers on the older ones(around 2010). Not sure if it may have changed in the years since.

Like I said contact transengineer, he designs the parts you're talking about and can give you a definite answer.
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Dug out my build sheet out of curiousity.
It lists my truck as being built to Canuck Manufacturing specs,and it lists it as having "Heavy Duty Engine Cooling" and a "Heavy Duty Transmission Oil Cooler".
I'll be damned if i've seen a tranny cooler on it,but then again i haven't went specifically looking for one either.
About all i can say Sean,is maybe there's a light duty 4.7 truck that comes through with a smaller tranny pan.
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They are the same for the 4.7L and the hemi.

The transmission cooler is integral with the condenser, it's the top ~10 rows.

Most of the "heavy duty" lingo they list is just to make it sound good. All the trucks now come with that standard, even the "regular" duty trucks.
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Looking behind the grill there's an aluminium block with 4 fittings feeding into it,that says from tranmission to transmission,and it looks like it feeds into the top of the AC condensor, you're right i didn't see any stand alone tranny cooler.
Too cold today to really look at it close ,but it does look to have a convenient spot to plumb an aftermarket cooler into place.

Sean you appear not to believe me,so i say grab your tape measure and find me the trucks with a differant pan then i have on my 2013 RCSB 4.7 truck.
My tape measure and eyeballs are pretty damn accurate when it comes to measuring from a pan lip to the bottom of the pan,hard to screw that measurement up if you ask me.
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