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Ok, at the risk of starting another flame war...

Why syn vs conventional? If I take my truck in to the dealer for an oil change, can I request syn? And what is the typical cost difference?
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Pennzoil Platinum for me, too, and a Fram Ultra Synthetic oil filter. I'll be getting my truck's first oil change this week. It'll be right around 6000 miles on the odometer.
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Ok, at the risk of starting another flame war...

Why syn vs conventional? If I take my truck in to the dealer for an oil change, can I request syn? And what is the typical cost difference?
Another way to approach the question is "what isn't the difference?" As far as the manufacturer is concerned, if it isn't specified, then you'll see no advantage in using synthetic. If it makes the user "feel" better, then by all means do it.

Yes, the dealer will gladly upsell anything they have on the menu.

2.5 to 4x greater cost for the upsell of your choice.

Bottom line, follow the manufacturer's suggested weight and API rating for the application. Same stands for the filter; pick your color.
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There is one clear advantage I believe--longer intervals between oil changes. You can go longer with synth than without. I've always wondered if the extra cost of synth makes that a wash though.

I asked a dealer mechanic today and he said no it's OK to use synth right off the bat. Says if the manual doesn't say one way or another it's OK to use either in all newer engines. Some high performance rigs mandate that you use synth I guess. Said it's still a bit of a concern to run synth in old vehicles though.
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Conventional oil it is then... If there is no benefit, then I need to go the cheapest route.
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From what I have read about synth. oils, another benefit is the bonding/coating of the internals at a moleculer level. When starting it will provide better protection as this is the most critical time as the motor warms up and the oil circulates.
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Ok, at the risk of starting another flame war...

Why syn vs conventional? If I take my truck in to the dealer for an oil change, can I request syn? And what is the typical cost difference?
The dealership here in Salt Lake City charges $34.99 for Pennzoil 5w20 and a mopar filter. If I want synthetic Pennzoil 5w20 and a filter its $84.99

I can do it myself for less than the dealer charges for synthetic.

I just did my first oil change and I bought 7 qts of Valvoline 5w20 and a Fram filter and it cost me $44.xx and then I spent $6.50 to rent a lift on base and did it myself. I paid more than the dealer would have charged for a standard oil change but I don't want Pennzoil in my truck. I'll change it again in 5k and switch to synthetic Mobil 1 or maybe Castrol Syntec. I have always had good luck with Castrol oil and ran many engines up over 250k using it w/ no lifter tick or anything. I've seen Pennzoil foam up and turn milky white and I don't want that crap in my Hemi.

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Conventional oil it is then... If there is no benefit, then I need to go the cheapest route.
Walmart Super Tech oil or whatever the local parts store has on sale for 5 qts of oil and filter combo. Just remember to grab 2 additional qts.

I did notice the aftermarket filters are larger diameter than the OEM Mopar filter, but the gasket sealing surface is the same size. I didn't like the face that it dripped oil all over my steering rack and pinion though. I used some old rags to soak that up and wipe it down but I might look into a filter relocation kit if anyone makes one that will fit this truck.

Then before you start the truck, turn the key til the dash and radio powers up, then push the gas pedal to the floor 3 times. This will reset the oil life monitor and put it back to 100% oil life.
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I use synthetic because using the vehicle oil life computer I get around 8,000 miles between changes with synthetic and 4-5k with regular. Being it does come out pretty close to a wash I choose to use synthetic and not have to change it as often.
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My oil life monitor does not seem to do any thing. It reduces oil life 10 % just about every thousand miles. Never varies winter, summer, towing ,or empty.
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Oil life monitor has no idea what oil is in the engine. It uses algorithm to determine oil life.
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