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Yes they are "on demand" that does not mean it should be "on demand" in every function.
On demand should be in AUTO mode only.

Go read the link Adanac Ram posted
Clearly states full lock capable
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swagger .....go friggin test your truck ! its on demand in 4wd high/4wd low and 4wd auto .... thats a fact jack....
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I think we're all agreeing, we just don't realize it.

Borg Warner advertises their "On Demand" t-cases as AWD and that they do lock, but only when they sense slip... Even in 4WD Hi Lock and 4WD Low Lock. My concern for off-road is that all of the locking-unlocking would cause wear or damage. Is this a legit concern, or is it simply a magnetic lock/unlock and no wear would occur??? If it's a clutch lock/unlock, that would definitely be a concern.

In short, I think the OP is right, but does it really matter?? I'm not sure yet.
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swagger .....go friggin test your truck ! its on demand in 4wd high/4wd low and 4wd auto .... thats a fact jack....
First both my trucks, my 09, and my 13 work perfectly. I put it in lock, or low, front spins immediately. I dislike the auto t cases, and this just gives me more ammunition, however that isn't the discussion.

Go read my posts.
I'm not saying it isn't. I'm saying it shouldn't. That's a programming f up from mother chrysler, since the tcases are capable of full lock.

That's a fact jack
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Borg Warner advertises their "On Demand" t-cases as AWD and that they do lock, but only when they sense slip

my point 100% !!!!!! when in 4wd lock you are NOT locked in ! if and when spinning happens the clutch engages and locks in 4wd. your truck will not sense slip unless the trucks gas pedal is pressed.
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Borg Warner advertises their "On Demand" t-cases as AWD and that they do lock, but only when they sense slip

my point 100% !!!!!! when in 4wd lock you are NOT locked in ! if and when spinning happens the clutch engages and locks in 4wd. your truck will not sense slip unless the trucks gas pedal is pressed.
Where do you read they lock only when they sense slip in any BW literature?
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Borg Warner advertises their "On Demand" t-cases as AWD and that they do lock, but only when they sense slip

my point 100% !!!!!! when in 4wd lock you are NOT locked in ! if and when spinning happens the clutch engages and locks in 4wd. your truck will not sense slip unless the trucks gas pedal is pressed.
I guess my real question is, how does the 44-44 lock?

If it is a magnetic action (solenoid?), it should be able to lock with the push of a button. To Swagger's point, that would mean yours could be 'fixed' in s/w. It could be set up to not have to wait for slip.

If it's a clutch of some sort (pressure, friction, whatever), it's never going to truly lock and s/w won't help. This would be a worry for heat and wear.
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I do this stuff every day. Im a master tech and have a towing company. I dont need to read how stuff works. I live it,fix it,tow it,and repair it .....
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its a electronic coil witch controls the clutches in the case. and no it will never be a true lock case ...
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Help me out on how the Gen 4 trucks work...

Does the driveshaft always turn with the front wheels? If not, where is the disconnect... hubs or diff??
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