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How many times does an actor or musician need to OD before the rest of them realize starting to take drugs is a bad idea? It is pretty much the ultimate cliche. Actor/musician OD's on (Insert drug of choice).

With the recent death of Philip Seymour Hoffman is anyone going to learn from this? Probably not. How many good/great/amazing actors and/or musicians do we need to lose?

Don't get me wrong, I do not blame them for having an addiction. That wasn't their choice. I blame them for trying the drugs in the first place. That was their choice. Maybe they need to start surrounding themselves with people that start saying no and not people who will always say yes.

These people are handed the world in some cases and have worked their asses off in others to throw it all away by jamming a needle in their arm or popping pills for the first time.

What a friggin waste.

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Never thought chocking on your own vomit would be a good way to go. Druggies never seem to give a $hit about anyone but themselves. Best friend lost his son, another friend has to haul his useless son around back and forth to the methadone clinics while his son robs him blind to buy more heroin. As a retired business owner, druggies have cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars in pilferage, thievery and a business partner stealing around $300,000 to buy drugs with the money that was to go to me.
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Sadly, this is not limited to celebrities. You just see it in the media when it is a famous person, so that gets everyones attention. A girl I went to high school with, a life-long friend and wonderful woman, lost her father, four (yes four) uncles, one aunt and finally her mother to heroine. Her dad & uncles all overdosed. Her aunt & mother were not as fortunate. They both succumbed to AIDS from years of needle sharing. Her mother had been clean for years, but the damage was done. She was a great and loving woman. We all called her "Mom". What a waste is right.
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Sadly, this is not limited to celebrities. You just see it in the media when it is a famous person, so that gets everyones attention. A girl I went to high school with, a life-long friend and wonderful woman, lost her father, four (yes four) uncles, one aunt and finally her mother to heroine. Her dad & uncles all overdosed. Her aunt & mother were not as fortunate. They both succumbed to AIDS from years of needle sharing. Her mother had been clean for years, but the damage was done. She was a great and loving woman. We all called her "Mom". What a waste is right.
I did not mean to imply that losing celebs this way is a greater tragedy than a friend or family member. Celebs should know better considering their deaths are always plastered on the news. It is a senseless loss of life.
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I know you didn't mean that, Dave. I was just saying it sucks no matter what. I often think of what Jimi Hendrix might have done. Or Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, er..... I'm ranting here, lmao. What we are both saying collectively, is wether or not the victim is famous, drugs take the worst toll on all of us.
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I know you didn't mean that, Dave. I was just saying it sucks no matter what. I often think of what Jimi Hendrix might have done. Or Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, er..... I'm ranting here, lmao. What we are both saying collectively, is wether or not the victim is famous, drugs take the worst toll on all of us.
Exactly what I was thinking. What if?
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Precisely!

Broke my heart at first when my wife shared the news with me. Then I found myself pretty pissed off. Because as we all agree it's a goddam waste. I think of the lifetime of work some of these people could have accomplished and then I only see their actions as selfish.

There are so many ways to squander one's talents - whether they be expressed within a career, a hobby, amongst others in general or within the confines of family life - but sometimes those talents spill forth amidst a deafening crescendo, as a needle tears the skin.

And that is utter BS...
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Precisely!

Broke my heart at first when my wife shared the news with me. Then I found myself pretty pissed off. Because as we all agree it's a goddam waste. I think of the lifetime of work some of these people could have accomplished and then I only see their actions as selfish.

There are so many ways to squander one's talents - whether they be expressed within a career, a hobby, amongst others in general or within the confines of family life - but sometimes those talents spill forth amidst a deafening crescendo, as a needle tears the skin.

And that is utter BS...
Beautifully said. Neil Young's "The Damage Done" anyone?

For those who don't know this songs lyrics, please Google now.
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I'll look up those lyrics Paul .. the needle in my reply was inspired by one of the most powerful performances I've ever seen -



I watched this video with my Father a few months before he passed, when I was down for a visit. He'd seen Cash in TO, out front of a venue selling his records and I grew up listening to those records for hours on end, sitting cross-legged on the floor in front of the old record player...


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