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Anyone know of any kits available or coming down the pipe line? I saw a kit that includes everything needed for the 3.6 in a jeep for about $6100.00. I cant imagine these power trains are all that different. I would think it should be relatively easy to retrofit this kit for our 3.6 rams. In the jeep they were getting upto 100 more hp and 70 lb ft

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I am not sure they will come out with a kit since people can upgrade to a hemi for far less then 6k and get 90 more horsepower along with more torque. I have the pentastar and wouldn't mind seeing some performance upgrades but I doubt there will be enough demand.
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It is not always the getting them to bolt up, a lot of the times it is more about the tuning, the main thing will be weather or not the fuel tables and trims can be controlled by a tuner or not.

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It is not always the getting them to bolt up, a lot of the times it is more about the tuning, the main thing will be weather or not the fuel tables and trims can be controlled by a tuner or not.

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I dont know much about tuning but since they are the same engine wouldn't the tuning be the same if not very close? It just seems like all the hard work is done already. Maybe im missing something but it looks on the face of it to be an almost done deal???
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I get what your saying about the hemi option at purchase but now that I own the truck it would certainly cost more then 6 grand to drop a hemi in to get the power upgrade. The biggest reason for buying the pentastar over the hemi is the mpg advantage right? Imo the 6gs to get hemi power along with pentastar efficiency is a win win. Maybe im in the minority here but it still looks like most of the engineering has been done on this sc kit. Even if theres not a large demand for it it still could make financial sense for a company to offer it. Of course thats assuming im correct about the majority of the engineering being complete.
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I dont know much about tuning but since they are the same engine wouldn't the tuning be the same if not very close? It just seems like all the hard work is done already. Maybe im missing something but it looks on the face of it to be an almost done deal???
It's the firmware on the computer that is dfferent, to my knowledge no one has been able to get control of the fuel tables 100% past 2011, and that was only on certain computers, I could be wrong though (as the last time I asked was about 6 months ago), however I will reach out to a couple people tomorrow and see what I can find out.

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6+ grand for a SC and you are worried about MPG?

You should of got the Hemi. It will take a long time to save that amount of gas and that is if you can keep your foot under control. The Hemi only gets about 3-5 MPG less than the Pentastar with the 8 speed transmission.

You will also void your engine warranty adding a SC.

I agree with some performance upgrades (I did the catch can Mod) and I can't see any other engine Mods at this time that would be worth upgrading.

If you want noise changing the exhaust and a open CIA, but I don't see any power or MPG gains.

But this is just my opinion and I am keeping my Pentastar engine factory stock or I would of ordered the Hemi to play with.

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6+ grand for a SC and you are worried about MPG?

You should of got the Hemi. It will take a long time to save that amount of gas and that is if you can keep your foot under control. The Hemi only gets about 3-5 MPG less than the Pentastar with the 8 speed transmission.

You will also void your engine warranty adding a SC.

I agree with some performance upgrades (I did the catch can Mod) and I can't see any other engine Mods at this time that would be worth upgrading.

If you want noise changing the exhaust and a open CIA, but I don't see any power or MPG gains.

But this is just my opinion and I am keeping my Pentastar engine factory stock or I would of ordered the Hemi to play with.

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Like I said to, if love to do some performance upgrades to. But that is a lot of money. I just can't see the demand for it, but believe me I hope they come out with some stuff for my Pentastar to.
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I do have to kind of agree.

The only way I could see a SC being REALLY worth while on the pentastar engine is if you are actually able to maintain 23+MPG.

Otherwise you are basically pushing the power of the V6 to the V8 power for x2 the cost.

Where in the RPM band this power will be made I don't know.

But lets not forget the pentastar gets the lower rated 8 speed transmission. The V6 gets the 8H45 and the Hemi gets the 8H70 or something to that effect. Basically the V6 transmission can't handle nearly as much torque. That means if you do a SC upgrade you will almost without a doubt burn out that transmission.
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