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Pqia i thought was funded by petroleum companies.
Makes you wonder how good they are,if they don't have any info on Redline,that seems a little suspicious.

I'll check out your other link later,but here's one for you to check out to.
There's a few others,but i'll have to dig for them,and most of them rate Mobil 1 lower then Amsoil or Redline.
Mobil 1's base stock is a grade lower then either Amsoil or Redline as far as i've read,and i've done a fair bit of reading on oils in the last year

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/puttin...nto-viscosity/
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Pqia i thought was funded by petroleum companies.
Makes you wonder how good they are,if they don't have any info on Redline,that seems a little suspicious.

I'll check out your other link later,but here's one for you to check out to.
There's a few others,but i'll have to dig for them,and most of them rate Mobil 1 lower then Amsoil or Redline.
Mobil 1's base stock is a grade lower then either Amsoil or Redline as far as i've read,and i've done a fair bit of reading on oils in the last year

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/puttin...nto-viscosity/
That link is not germane to the subject. It describes viscosity only.
Bob is the oil guy is a familiar site to me. I like it, but it has never answered the question we're discussing to my knowlege.
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The PQIA is an independent testing organization, non-biased. You can take their test results to the bank.

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They provide tables of comparison between various oils, and their Mobil 1 chart indicates better NOACK testing results (volatility) for Mobil 1 than Amsoil . They don't list Redline I don't believe.

Here's a link that may prove informative: http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013P...sallfinal.html
The Amsoil OE lubricant tested in the link above is Amsoil's cheapest lubricant, and is known to be cheap group III hydrocraked petroleum. It compares to the current formulation of Mobil 1. Amsoil sells OE for less than $5.00 per quart to preferred customers (online members), what you should pay for cheap base oil.

However, Amsoil Signature Series 5W-20 has a NOACK of 5.5%, almost 50% lower than anything Mobil 1 formulates. Why, because it's a true PAO/Ester synthetic base oil, not cheap hydrocracked "highly refined" petroleum.

Amsoil Signature Series 5W-30 - 6.9%

Amsoil Signature Series 10W-30 - 5.3%

Want to know what people should fear. The fact that big oil companies omit this specification on all of their spec sheets. Why, because they are hiding the truth. This one spec alone reveals base oil used in the formulation. You are not getting a true "fully" synthetic base oil, yet still paying the price for it.

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Maybe give us a link to these other labs Ghorn.
I've never seen a lab test that rates Mobil1 higher then Amsoil or Redline,so i'd like to read your lab test findings.
Same here. I would also like to read that lab test.
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You will be safe using any oil that meets Chrysler MS-6395 specification. There are very little differences in the newest high tech oils used in today's vehicles. Where it would make the biggest difference is if you were driving a race car or using your truck under extreme conditions. Extreme temperatures are hard on a racing engine but for factory cars and truck you more than safe using conventional oils.

Having said that, There is a lot of hype about oils and which ones to use. The manufacturer depend on consumer ignorance when it come to which oil to use.

I don't put a lot of miles on a new vehicle. Nor do I put my truck to the test by hauling and towing heavy loads in extreme weather or dirty conditions. I have been using Amsoil products for several years now and have only done so because of the marginal differences and advantage Amsoil has over other oil.

I've ridden motorcycles for 49 years. About 35 years ago I switched to synthetic blend oil and had samples of used oil annualized by Blackstone Laboratories. Only because of the marginal differences did I switch to using Amsoil full synthetic oil.
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I use Mobil 1 full synthetic with a Mopar filter on all of my vehicles. 5w for the Ram 4.7
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I'm using Amsoil 0W20 signature series , four years running with a UAP Napa gold filter. Bully's performance sells it at an awesome price. Yes 0W20 is perfectly fine and equivalent to 5W20.
Fair warning the lower starting viscosity provides LESS startup wear protection than a heaver one (5W20) and is the reason I run 10W30 in my engine instead of 5W30 or 0W30
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How do you figure that Striker.
Thinner oil pumps faster,especially at -20.
Thinner oil also makes starting the engine easier.
It's thick oil that makes turning the engine over harder.
The oil pump creates a pile of drag,and it gets worse the thicker the oil,and the colder the temps.
Thick oil will also cavitate the pump at cold temps,that's where the pump will run empty,till the oil slowly flows into it
All oils drain off when you shut the engine off warm,if that's what your basing your advice on
So clue us into to your theory

Find a freezer that is at -20,and try poring the differant viscosities of oil.
10w-30 doesn't pore worth shit at those temps compared to 5W-30 or 0W-20

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