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Old 06-04-2014, 10:39 PM
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That's not an objective comparison.
The hemi doesn't require premium, so that's a bad comparison.
A new gas engine, hemi or otherwise doesn't need 3k oil changes. bad comparison there too.
And finally, you most likely aren't pricing K+N, and royal purple filters and oil for the diesel are you?

You guys who want a diesel, should just say so. There's nothing wrong with buying what you want. Trying to justify the decision to others by saying you did it to save a calculated mileage nickel, just makes you look like you're trying to justify something you feel guilty about.
It didn't seem to me he was justifying anything--just stating facts. I think the data and decision is for you to justify or weigh.
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Hi Red Stripe, my comments were relative to my 07 Suburban and not meant to be a spreadsheet to compare the EcoDiesel to the Hemi. Perhaps I picked the wrong forum for my diatribe, lol.

There is no doubt that it will take quite a while to realize any savings from the mileage differential relative to the premium we pay for the EcoDiesel. You are right, we chose to go with the 3L not based on where the break even was, but on what fit our lifestyle at the time. Both seem like great trucks and we hope that they all treat their owners well for many years.
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I bought the ecodiesel because I love diesel engines, see signature below. I also bought it for bragging rights, LOL. 10 mpg better then a Heeemi is considerable saveings given it's a $2875.00 upgrade. Actually the upgrade cost can be a wash or even cost less then a Heemi if you shop around, willing to drive a few hundred miles, know how to negotiate (manipulate) the numbers, and have patience while shopping (sometimes months), and know when your at the right price.

Get what you want the first time around within reason and budget, don't settle for second best or you'll always wish you had done it differently all the while not enjoying what you do have and in the end paying more tradeing and costing more then if you would have what you wanted in the first place.
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Old 06-05-2014, 09:51 AM
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I bought the ecodiesel because I love diesel engines, see signature below. I also bought it for bragging rights, LOL. 10 mpg better then a Heeemi is considerable saveings given it's a $2875.00 upgrade. Actually the upgrade cost can be a wash or even cost less then a Heemi if you shop around, willing to drive a few hundred miles, know how to negotiate (manipulate) the numbers, and have patience while shopping (sometimes months), and know when your at the right price.

Get what you want the first time around within reason and budget, don't settle for second best or you'll always wish you had done it differently all the while not enjoying what you do have and in the end paying more tradeing and costing more then if you would have what you wanted in the first place.
While I agree with what you wrote for the most part....what's a 'Heeemi'??
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:03 AM
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Averaging 20.7 MPG with my HEMI 8 speed for the first 1000 miles so far!!! Absolutely LOVE this combination!!

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I got a question on the oil filters. What is the difference between the EcoD filter on a Jeep and the one on the Ram? There is a $20 difference between these filters with the Ram's filter being more expensive.
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Just traded my hemi for an ecodiesel. Wow! What a difference in mileage. Just travelled over 400k and at 3/4 tank. My hemi would be nearing empty by now. Cant wait to get better mileage towing too. Its funny people can justify paying 10 to 15k more for fancy wheels, heated seats etc. But would not pay a couple k more for a diesel. I payed 35k for mine which is average for any new 4x4. You can argue all you want but I am laughing everytime I go to fill up. Elated with my purchase.
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I'm considering trading in my 2013 Hemi for a 2014 Ecodiesel... Looking at fuelly, I see that ecodiesel trucks are getting between 8.7 l/100km and 12.5 l/100km, with a median/average about 10 l/100km. Since I'm getting 14.9 l/100km on my Hemi (tracked through fuelly), that seems like it could be a substanstial fuel savings over 25000 km/year. Thoughts?
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:38 AM
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I'm considering trading in my 2013 Hemi for a 2014 Ecodiesel... Looking at fuelly, I see that ecodiesel trucks are getting between 8.7 l/100km and 12.5 l/100km, with a median/average about 10 l/100km. Since I'm getting 14.9 l/100km on my Hemi (tracked through fuelly), that seems like it could be a substanstial fuel savings over 25000 km/year. Thoughts?
Just do the Math. It all depends on the price of diesel. Diesel by me cost $.50 more a gallon. When I compared that to the price increase for the EcoDiesel, the more expensive oil changes and the the DEF it would take me YEARS to make up the money in my wallet. If the price for diesel was a much smaller increase I probably would have went that route. Right now though with my driving habits I'm averaging more than 20MPG with my Hemi/8 speed combo so I'm VERY pleased.
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Just traded my hemi for an ecodiesel. Wow! What a difference in mileage. Just travelled over 400k and at 3/4 tank. My hemi would be nearing empty by now. Cant wait to get better mileage towing too. Its funny people can justify paying 10 to 15k more for fancy wheels, heated seats etc. But would not pay a couple k more for a diesel. I payed 35k for mine which is average for any new 4x4. You can argue all you want but I am laughing everytime I go to fill up. Elated with my purchase.
I always think the same thing, how long is the pay off for a sun roof or a nav system?
kingface, with your driving habits you would most likely get 30mpg in the eco. on a 400 mile trip I got 29.5. if I sell my truck in two years it will be worth $2850 more than yours and if I sell it with 200,000 miles it will be worth $5,000 more.
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