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Old 01-16-2009, 12:52 PM
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Question MIL/CEL Code Retrieval and List?

Trying to find out if my '03 RAM has a trouble code retrieval w/o scanner method, like the Caravan and other cars do reading the flash(es), pause, flash(es) after performing a bunch of steps in order to get diagnostic mode.

Sorry if this is a repost; I searched on codes, MIL, CEL, etc. and came up empty. Also if anyone has a trouble code list that would be handy.

Specifically I am w/o tools and suspect my alternator is running very high over-voltage probably because of a weak battery. In the caravan you can check that condition because its PCM stores a code specifically for that problem. If I can believe my gauge, which is sitting on the far right bar of the H side, it's running a lot higher than normal. I'm a little short on time and don't want to take the time to go test the alternator and battery at a shop, and it would be really nice to know if it's something else like a voltage regulator before I burn out my alternator.

It is very cold out and with 5.5 years on the battery I suspect it may be starting to not take a charge. At least with the knowledge on my wife's caravan I can retrieve codes w/o any tools, just need the keys.

Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old 01-16-2009, 02:43 PM
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Try this. Have a pencil and paper handy.

Perform the following steps fairly quickly (less than 3 seconds) :

Turn key to ON
then back to ACC
then to ON
then back to ACC
then to ON

If there are any stored codes, your CEL will blink once for "1", twice for "2", etc... Write down the numbers you get.

I haven't found a CEL decoder for your year truck (what engine do you have?) but you could always call a dealer to get it translated.

I've seen a lot of simple code scanners out there you can plug into your data port. You can get them by year range and powertrain specification.

I assume your gauge is reading high voltage?

Hope this helps!
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Try this. Have a pencil and paper handy.

Perform the following steps fairly quickly (less than 3 seconds) :

Turn key to ON
then back to ACC
then to ON
then back to ACC
then to ON

If there are any stored codes, your CEL will blink once for "1", twice for "2", etc... Write down the numbers you get.

I haven't found a CEL decoder for your year truck (what engine do you have?) but you could always call a dealer to get it translated.

I've seen a lot of simple code scanners out there you can plug into your data port. You can get them by year range and powertrain specification.

I assume your gauge is reading high voltage?

Hope this helps!
Yes, it's reading higher than I've ever seen it.

I have the 5.7 liter HEMI, 2003 Quad Cab, bought it August 2003.

I really need to pick up a hand scanner but to date with 2 Dodges and 3 Nissans (Sentra, Altima, Infiniti G35) I can read all of them through the MIL/CEL, have the codes lists for all but this one.

So given two of those are pre-OBDII, I'm too cheap to buy a scanner

Actually one has a ECU transplant with a daughterboard for realtime tuning, that one I can read anything stored in the ECU, in addtion to the tuning maps and other slick features just plugging in the laptop.

Thanks for the help!
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Old 01-16-2009, 04:07 PM
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Default Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler Specific OBDII MIL Trouble Codes

Well, I found a partial list (doesn't include the generic OBDII codes P0XXX format).

Hopefully I won't see this code and can just attribute the voltage to the cold weather:
P1594 Charging System Voltage Too High

Code Description
P1192 Inlet Air Temp. Circuit Low
P1193 Inlet Air Temp. Circuit High
P1195 1/1 O2 Sensor Slow During Catalyst Monitor
P1196 2/1 O2 Sensor Slow During Catalyst Monitor
P1197 1/2 O2 Sensor Slow During Catalyst Monitor
P1198 Radiator Temperature Sensor Volts Too High
P1199 Radiator Temperature Sensor Volts Too Low
P1281 Engine Is Cold Too Long
P1282 Fuel Pump Relay Control Circuit
P1283 Idle Select Signal Invalid
P1284 Fuel Injection Pump Battery Voltage Out Of Range
P1285 Fuel Injection Pump Controller Always On
P1286 Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor Supply Voltage Too High
P1287 Fuel Injection Pump Controller Supply Voltage Low
P1288 Intake Manifold Short Runner Solenoid Circuit
P1289 Manifold Tune Valve Solenoid Circuit
P1290 CNG Fuel Pressure Too High
P1291 No Temp Rise Seen From Fuel Heaters
P1292 CNG Pressure Sensor Voltage Too High
P1293 CNG Pressure Sensor Voltage Too Low
P1294 Target Idle Not Reached
P1295 No 5 Volts To TP Sensor
P1296 No 5 Volts To MAP Sensor
P1297 No Change in MAP From Start To Run
P1298 Lean Operation At wide Open Throttle
P1299 Vacuum Leak Found (IAC Fully Seated)
P1388 Auto Shutdown (ASD) Relay Control Circuit
P1389 No Auto Shutdown (ASD) Relay Output Voltage At PCM
P1390 Timing Belt Skipped One Tooth or More
P1391 Intermittent Loss of CMP or CKP
P1398 Mis-Fire Adapter Numerator at Limit
P1399 Wait To Start Lamp Circuit
P1403 No 5 Volts To EGR Sensor
P1475 Aux. 5 Volt Output Too High
P1476 Too Little Secondary Air
P1477 Too Much Secondary Air
P1478 Battery Temp Sensor Volts Out of Limit
P1479 Transmission Fan Relay Circuit
P1480 PCV Solenoid Valve
P1482 Catalyst Temperature Sensor Circuit Shorted Low
P1483 Catalyst Temperature Sensor Circuit Shorted High
P1484 Catalytic Converter Overheat Detected
P1485 Air Injection Solenoid Circuit
P1486 Evap Leak Monitor Pinched Hose
P1487 Hi Speed Rad Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
P1488 Auxiliary 5 Volt Supply Output Too Low
P1489 High Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
P1490 Low Speed Fan CTRL Relay Circuit
P1491 Rad Fan Control Relay Circuit
P1492 Battery Temperature Sensor Voltage Too High
P1493 Battery Temperature Sensor Voltage Too Low
P1494 Leak Detection Pump Switch or Mechanical Fault
P1495 Leak Detection Pump Solenoid Circuit
P1496 5 Volt Supply Output Too Low
P1498 High speed Rad Fan Ground CTRL Rly Circuit
P1594 Charging System Voltage Too High
P1595 Speed Control Solenoid Circuits
P1596 Speed Control Switch Always High
P1597 Speed Control Switch Always Low
P1598 A/C Pressure Sensor Volts Too High
P1599 A/C Pressure Sensor Volts Too Low
P1602 PCM Not Programmed
P1680 Clutch Released Switch Circuit
P1681 No I/P Cluster CCD/J1850 Messages Received
P1682 Charging System Voltage Too Low
P1683 Speed Control Power Relay Or Speed Control 12 Volt Driver Circuit
P1684 Battery Disconnected Within Last 50 Starts
P1685 Skim Invalid Key
P1686 No SKIM Bus Message Received
P1687 No Cluster Bus Message
P1688 Internal Fuel Injection Pump Controller Failure
P1689 No Communication Between ECM & Injection Pump Module
P1690 Fuel injection pump CKP Sensor Does Not Agree With ECM CKP Sensor
P1691 Fuel Injection Pump Controller Calibration Failure
P1693 DTC Detected In ECM Or PCM
P1694 No CCD Messages Received From ECM
P1695 No CCD/J185O Message From BCM
P1696 PCM Failure EEPROM Write Denied
P1697 PCM Failure SRI Mile Not Stored
P1698 No CCD Messages Received From PCM
P1719 Skip Shift Solenoid Circuit
P1740 TCC Or OD Solenoid Performance
P1756 Governor Pressure Not Equal To Target At 1520 PSI
P1757 Governor Pressure Above 3 PSI When Request Is 0 PSI
P1762 Governor Pressure Sensor Offset Improper Voltage
P1763 Governor Pressure Sensor Voltage Too High
P1764 Governor Pressure Sensor Voltage Too Low
P1765 Trans 12 Volt Supply Relay Control Circuit
P1899 Park/Neutral Position Switch Stuck In Park or In Gear
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I'm not sure where your from, but I'm located in Southern Ontario Canada and my battery guage has been sitting at about 3/4 for the past few days too. I just chalked it up to the really cold weather being hard on the battery and charging system, nothing to worry about... lol I actually had to boost a friends Mazda Protege.. so hah.
Also, I'm going to mention that my moms car (1998 Ply. Breeze) has original battery and is still running strong.. car has 190,000km on too!
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I'm not sure where your from, but I'm located in Southern Ontario Canada
Canton, CT USA - small town in the NW corner of a tiny state.

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...and my battery guage has been sitting at about 3/4 for the past few days too. I just chalked it up to the really cold weather being hard on the battery and charging system, nothing to worry about... lol I actually had to boost a friends Mazda Protege.. so hah.
Ah, good, maybe I'm just paranoid and my battery is not out to get me.

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Also, I'm going to mention that my moms car (1998 Ply. Breeze) has original battery and is still running strong.. car has 190,000km on too!
Well, you Mom is probably smarter than me. Took me 4 or more years to realize the 12V from the cig lighter is just as good as the "always on" for 12V acc, so I drained the battery to dead several times when I'd leave stuff plugged in and travel for work, come back 5 days later wondering why it wouldn't start.

Not so good for a battery.
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hey there just had that damn check engine light come on. I didnt know bout all the different ways to ck the code so I put my flashpaq programmer and read my dtc's and It said P1697. I was wondering if anyone knew what this is and or means. Is this a sensitive issue.Would appreciate any imput and it won't clear if I try to reset. Thanx
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P1697 PCM Failure SRI Mile Not Stored

Looks like a momentary glitch and not a serious issue. It just stored a code.

Find your PCM/AutoShutOff fuse (check the owner's manual), pull it and wait about a minute, put it back in, start your truck and see if the CEL has cleared.

I'm gonna take a guess here but see if it isn't Fuse 11 (again, check the owner's manual) in the underhood fuse box.
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should be able to do the on off on off on off on trick and get the code right in the odometer window....with the 03
works in my 02
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Not serious. If you can locate the PCM might also want to check for loose wiring, or just make sure the wiring is snug.

SRI = Service Reminder Indicator, the code means it wasn't able to update it. Not sure what all falls under this in a truck, this code was pretty common with the Neon SRT4.

Might just want to look at your mileage and think about what if anything is due, but it is def not a serious issue.

Most often, a "false positive".
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