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Hi All,

Just joined up and wanted to say hello. Been a Dodge man from the day I bought my first car................... 1965 Dodge Monaco! ...long gone.

Now looking to increase the stable to include a used Dodge Ram and need the advice of your experts here!

I want to buy a 3/4t 4-door Ram 4x4, (used), preferably diesel. Between 2000 and 2007, is there years that are better than others? What should I look for or be aware of? I know this isn't new but I want the latest take from you all!

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I personally would stick with the later models . They made the motors quieter , more powerful , and I think if you were to buy an older one you would be buying one that has definitely been run hard .
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I see a lot of '06 Cummins running around in the oil patch. They're reliable for the most part, all depends on the driver of course; As for things to look for, basically look for the standard things, leaks from diffs/seals, find out if they did gear changes, that kind of thing. Have the tranny checked out too, they are a bit of a weak point with the torque from the Cummins.
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I see a lot of '06 Cummins running around in the oil patch. They're reliable for the most part, all depends on the driver of course; As for things to look for, basically look for the standard things, leaks from diffs/seals, find out if they did gear changes, that kind of thing. Have the tranny checked out too, they are a bit of a weak point with the torque from the Cummins.
My '08 Ram 3500 is a piece of junk. Can't wait until I pay it off, I'll pick up the new 2011 Super Duty that's coming out with a new Ford designed and built PowerStroke diesel. Mind you, I do put it through it's paces and even go beyond what the manufacturer specs are for towing, hauling and everything else between. But then again I do the same with my Ram 1500 and that thing is more reliable than I ever imagined it to be. Gotta love the Hemi. I hate the Cummins.

If I were to recommend any Ram, I'd say just make sure it has a Hemi. 4x4, Crew Cab and all that other stuff you can get anywhere else. But if it has a Hemi then you're already done good for yourself.
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For this one guy that hates his Cummins, I can show you 25 that had a Powerstroke they hate. They all tell me the Powerstroke isn't in the same class as the Cummins. I had one with over 500,000k miles (know of several others) on it and know of a couple with over 1 million miles. ALL of the newer diesels have problems with the DPF junk. Get a pre-2007 Cummins if you are looking for a diesel. I happen to love the old 12 valve trucks (before 1998.5) for simplicity and easy power.
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2006 seems to be the best year according to some general contractor friends of mine. They hate the new engine controls and emissions equipment put on the 2007's and up, saying that the engines are down on power and expensive to keep up compared to the 2006's.
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All good suggestions! Looked at an '06 with a HEMI last weekend... How "bad" is the gas mileage on a HEMI???
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My '08 Ram 3500 is a piece of junk. Can't wait until I pay it off, I'll pick up the new 2011 Super Duty that's coming out with a new Ford designed and built PowerStroke diesel. Mind you, I do put it through it's paces and even go beyond what the manufacturer specs are for towing, hauling and everything else between. But then again I do the same with my Ram 1500 and that thing is more reliable than I ever imagined it to be. Gotta love the Hemi. I hate the Cummins.

If I were to recommend any Ram, I'd say just make sure it has a Hemi. 4x4, Crew Cab and all that other stuff you can get anywhere else. But if it has a Hemi then you're already done good for yourself.
I'm curious - I assume you have the 6.7L engine? What issues are you having with it and how do you use the truck?
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Back to the original issue. I'm partial to the '06 with the 5.9L H.O. Cummins and G-56 6 speed manual transmission.
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The big problem we at the dealership are seeing with the 6.7 is not so much cause by the design of the engine, but rather the owners/operators. This engine can NOT be operated like the older diesels which didn't fall under the governments regulations for emissions control. The worst thing you can do to this motor is idle it for more than 10-15 minutes. Soot accumulates in the EGR, Turbo, O2 sensors, and particulate filter. Other brands are having similar issues, so Cummins isn't alone in this department. The second worst thing you can do with the 6.7 is not work it. I wish I had a dime for every customer I've encountered that uses his 6.7 for a daily driving status symbol. The 6.7 is designed to work hard in a certain rpm range. The PCM stores information on the time spent in various RPM bands so we can tell how the truck is operated, and yes, if you lie to us we're going to know it. Also, the 6.7 requires ultra low sulpher fuel for clean operation. A prime example is a customer brought his in for the MIL being on and reduced power. I checked the timers and found that 40% of the engine run time was spent under 1000 RPM. In other words, he had the truck idling nearly 40% of the time it was running! Aside from the problems he was creating, imagine the cost of the fuel he wasted.

If you have a 6.7, run it hard, use the engine brake even when you aren't loaded from time to time, and don't let it idle for extended periods.
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