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Old 02-17-2010, 11:18 AM
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Can any one recommend a good buffer?
I have 2 black cars and my red Ram. Swirl marks and fine scratches are all over them.. I've even notices my microfiber towels leaving fine scratches when I'm wiping it down after a wax.
I have some mequire's and 3m products to remove them but I'm not seeing any good results from my orbital buffer.
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I at one time did this on occasion. We used a 3 speed buffer. It looked like a over sized grinderIm not sure how a orbital buffer would work on removing scratches. I am surprised you are getting scratches with a microfiber towel.Macguire products is mainly what i use.
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When you get into those high speed buffers you need to be careful, they can strip the clear coat. But you get better results of removing swirl marks with them and a good compound.

I use these products for detailing. http://www.ppcbest.com/

My car club is actually going to the inventor/owners house this next month for some demonstrations. I have been using these products for about 6 years now with excellant results.
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Yes...exactly Werm. You do need to watch the speed. Thats one of the reasons at the dealership we had one that was adjustable for speed. Especially dark coloured viehcles.
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I use a 10" craftsman orbital buffer with no problems. I use Zymol wax.
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Porter Cable makes a great random orbiter so you don't get those "burn" marks that normal orbiters can give you if you're not experienced with them. I've been getting a list of things to order from autogeek.com They also have some video's on there to show the proper way of using their stuff!
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Most effective for a reasonable price is the porter cable 7424. Autogeek has some good package deals that come with everything you need. Last time I looked Amazon had decent prices on the buffer too.

For a beginner stay away from the rotary buffers, if you don't know what you're doing you will do more damage than good for your paint. Random orbital buffers can still do a terrific job if used correctly. In fact the buffer is the least important part of the process. I now use the porter cable and am very pleased with it. I also have a rotary but I only use it as a last effort before wetsanding. Back when I was on a much tighter budget and only working on my own vehicles I used a craftsman buffer, cut the foam part off and put some velcro on it then used the same pads that the high end buffers use. It won't provide quite the results of a higher end solution but for the price it's very effective, especially if you only plan on using it 1 or 2 times a year. I run a small detailing business on the side which is why I got the PC.
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I have a Porter Cable 7424XP. Go to www.adamsforums.com and watch the videos on how to use it. The machine is great and unless you drop it on your paint, it's almost impossible to damage your finish. With the right pad and polish, the swirls will be gone in no time.
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Just a suggestion to help reduce scratches. Try some detail spray with your microfiber towels. I have a dark blue truck and am just about fanatical with it. I wipe it down very often. I either use waterless wash and the right towel or detail spray and a high quality(not Costco or Sams Club) microfiber towel. Good Luck
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