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I heard that these filters my be a problem, is there any truth to this ? I have heard from other sources that they are very good filters, better than the OEMs or Mopars. Please advise if you can. Thanks
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I use Fram oil filters alot. I have never had any problems with them. As for OEM filters.............I cant see them being bad considering they put them on there viehcles.
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What problems have you heard?
I actually saw it in one of the postings on this site, see #16 in http://www.ramforumz.com/showthread....ht=FRAM&page=2

Anyway I have used FRAM before with no problems so I was just curious if this was a one of problem or if others have also had problems.
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i used the TOUGH GUARD Fram filters on my last 2 or 3 vehicles, i never had any problems
i even use them on my Harley in the oil tank

this is a break down of almost all the oil filters, including the Amsoil brand, you will not believe all the info on this, Brand Model P/N Vintage Manufacturer Cost Element Surface Area
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil...reference.html
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I used Fram oil filters back in the 70's and 80's but not since then and I will not. The problem that caused Fram oil filters to get a bad rep was the cardboard endcaps that holds the filter element. When everybody used 10W40 motor oil and changed the motor oil and oil filter at 3000 miles there were no problems. With the extended oil changes that are common today; there has been issues with the cardboard not holding up. Fram Extra Guard and Tough Guard use the cardboard endcaps. The Extended Guard has metal filter endcaps like the other oil filters which cost half of its price.
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Interesting...................I didnt know that. Ive been using tough guard for awhile.No problems yet......I may reconsider though.
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this is from the site that i posted above, as i said, its a great site

Fram Extra Guard PH8A

This filter cartridge has a small outside diameter with a rather low filter element surface area (193 sqin), and features cardboard end caps that are bonded in place using a thermal adhesive. The rubber anti-drainback valve seals the rough metal backplate to the cardboard end cap. In practice these seem to leak, causing dirty oil to drain back into the pan. If you use this filter and have a noisy valve train at startup, the filter is likely the cause. The bypass valves are plastic and are sometimes not molded correctly, which allows them to leak when they should be closed. The backplate has smaller and fewer oil inlet holes, which may restrict flow.
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Used to use Fram all the time, but that was with changes every 3-5k miles. No problems, but again, frequent change interval.
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this is from the site that i posted above, as i said, its a great site

Fram Extra Guard PH8A

This filter cartridge has a small outside diameter with a rather low filter element surface area (193 sqin), and features cardboard end caps that are bonded in place using a thermal adhesive. The rubber anti-drainback valve seals the rough metal backplate to the cardboard end cap. In practice these seem to leak, causing dirty oil to drain back into the pan. If you use this filter and have a noisy valve train at startup, the filter is likely the cause. The bypass valves are plastic and are sometimes not molded correctly, which allows them to leak when they should be closed. The backplate has smaller and fewer oil inlet holes, which may restrict flow.
That is a great find, I will definitely bookmark that site. Thanks,
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