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Old 05-10-2010, 11:07 AM
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And you can be sure of this because....?
Like I sad mine is in the shop right now for a little stem and the smell of antifreeze out the tailpipe that turned in to 0 compression on #1 and #2 cylinder and thin turned in to $5000+- rebelled. Just saying
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Zero compression on two cylinders will cause more problems than just a little steam. You'd have at least 2 misfire codes and probably 1/1 and 2/1 O2 codes since the cylinders are on opposite banks. Power would be down to the point the vehicle would barely be driveable overheating would likely be a problem as well. If it is indeed the head gaskets on your vehicle, someone is ripping you off big time on the repair.
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Zero compression on two cylinders will cause more problems than just a little steam. You'd have at least 2 misfire codes and probably 1/1 and 2/1 O2 codes since the cylinders are on opposite banks. Power would be down to the point the vehicle would barely be driveable overheating would likely be a problem as well. If it is indeed the head gaskets on your vehicle, someone is ripping you off big time on the repair.
I did have the misfire codes but not the co2. but I did a full rebuild because it went at 166k so I didn’t want a good top end and a sloppy low end. And I got the long block out of FLA. $2500 + a $750 Core Charge + $140 ship + $1700 install and the install is the cheapest in at least 50 Mil. $2000+ is the going rate hear in SC.
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Old 05-10-2010, 11:54 AM
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If the average labor rate is $100 an hour then you did get a pretty good deal on the long block labor rate.
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If the average labor rate is $100 an hour then you did get a pretty good deal on the long block labor rate.
Ya that’s what I was thinking to.
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ok guys my 02 is doing the SAME THING and i have heard that these heads are very common to crack. Is that a true statement? Also you can get a complete upper gasket kit that includes the head gaskets from your local orielys for under $200. Also i read earlier something about a angle wrench?? what the crap is that?? bolts are tourqed to yeild?? what ?? i would like to see where you have gotten that info please cause i have never heard of any head bolt or any bolt on an engine for that matter tourqed to yeild. (yeild means brealing point) and if that were true then the bolts would break under any kind of pressure correct? jsut asking guys. Also is there is link that gives a step by step instructions for doing a head job like a chilton?
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Torque to yield bolts stretch when torqued, they can only be used once. Every manual will tell you to replace them every time if they are torque to yield.

An angle wrench will tell you how many degrees you have turned the bolt. The last torque spec on my Exploder was to turn all head bolts 90*.

Chilton and Haynes both will give you info for a complete rebuild, but it is chunked down to components. Although it may be common for the heads to crack, that may not be your case. Get it diagnosed, and if you do have to pull the heads, have a good machinist examine the heads to see if they are still good. They can pick up on things that you will only see if they point it out.
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Torque to yield bolts stretch when torqued, they can only be used once. Every manual will tell you to replace them every time if they are torque to yield.

An angle wrench will tell you how many degrees you have turned the bolt. The last torque spec on my Exploder was to turn all head bolts 90*.

Chilton and Haynes both will give you info for a complete rebuild, but it is chunked down to components. Although it may be common for the heads to crack, that may not be your case. Get it diagnosed, and if you do have to pull the heads, have a good machinist examine the heads to see if they are still good. They can pick up on things that you will only see if they point it out.
I have to argue about the TTY head bolts. Chrysler generally only calls for replacing TTY bolts when they are necked down or otherwise show signs of damage that would lead to failure.
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I have to argue about the TTY head bolts. Chrysler generally only calls for replacing TTY bolts when they are necked down or otherwise show signs of damage that would lead to failure.
Just going by what my master machinist friend tells me. He has always told me to replace TTY's.
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SilverEagle98, Thanks for your response. Was the corrosion on the block or the head? My last venture into head repair was a 66fordgt 298/271 HiPo in 81 that rolled a timing chain. Manifold, heads, solidlifters, cam timing gears...and 3 weeks of grime removal from my hands. I was a younger man with a stronger back. I am not adverse to taking on the task but if the possibility of it being on the block exists I need to weigh the benefit sending it out. Thanks
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