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Ok so being a tech I know the whole throttle body service is bull if you want one all they do is take some throttle body cleaner and spray it on a rag and wipe out your throttle. If they are good they might even use a BG throttle service kit which is still over priced and wont do more than overload your cat's and maybe clean your intake. The 30,000 mile service for a hemi is only really a oil change, spark plugs, tire rotation, and change diff and transfer fluids. The transfer and diff fluids I change regularly on my own and also do it with oil change and all together fluids, filter, and addative for diff cost around 150. But let me say spark plugs are a must, now they may not need changed but at least pull them and put anti-seez on them. But 1k is way to much.
I disagree, especially the first time you get a P2175 from a sticking ETC. Chrysler kits are Wynns and not BG and if you do them right, they make a difference. I don't know what kind of shop you work in, but your 30k service is missing a few things like a balance to go with that rotation, power steering flush, brake fluid flush, air filter, fuel filter (if equipped) and a PCV valve.
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I`m sorry, BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT............
ther is no way in HELLLL i would EVER pay $1,000.00 for a fliuid change and tune up...!!!!!!
These dealers and manufactuer`s are friggin OUT OF CONTROL...!!!!!

As for that special MOPAR additive to the rear-end, thats bullshiittttt...!!!
I drove my old 2005 hemi truck over 200,000+ miles with amsoil additive in the rear-end before i sold it, and the additive didnt cost me $300 friggin dollars either. That 2005 hemi truck is STILL runnin perfect today too for the new owner, and the ORIGINAL rear-end has never been apart since i bought new in late 2004, and still quite as a mouse...!

The dealers make you pay these high prices because "you" allow it to happen.
If you cant work on your own truck, then find someone to teach you what you need to know to save you big $$$$$$$$$

They dont call them "STEALER`S" for nothin folks...!


And while you're at it, get someone to teach you plumbing, electrical, carpentry, roofing, masonry, concrete and cabinet making skills so you won't have to pay those overpriced contractors!
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Brake fluid flush??? really??? at 30 k?
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And while you're at it, get someone to teach you plumbing, electrical, carpentry, roofing, masonry, concrete and cabinet making skills so you won't have to pay those overpriced contractors!
Pheeew! I am soooo glad I didn't make that list. The last thing I wanted to be known as is 'Overpriced'!

Although I am not one to spend a G note on a 30K maintenance/tuneup, there are many people out there that should! Especially after looking at Randy's list of 'What's included'....or at least what 'should' be included, there is actually a lot of work involved, and less equipped you are (tools, specialty equipment) the longer and more difficult it will be. Don't believe me....then go ahead, flush your entire brake system armed with nothing more than a few cans of brake fluid, a hose, a friend, and a 12 of beer; take photos that include the face of a clock....or calendar.....which ever is most appropriate.

I am as guilty as the next 'back yard mechanic' for criticizing the service shops, especially for the cost involved, but I can guarantee you, that I will be one of the last 'back yard mechanics' to flush my brake system, power steering or balance my tires! Guess that makes me a hypocrite!

I work in the electronic field, and as such have made sizable investments into specialized testing equipment, and similar investments into training of both the systems, and the advanced use of the test equipment. This allows me to accomplish certain tasks in minutes, where my competitors sometimes need hours or even days to accomplish the same task. Should I be charging ONLY for the actual time i spent....at the same hourly rate as my competitor?.....or is it justifiable for me to charge as much as 10X the hourly rate, when the final cost to the customer is 3/4 or even 1/2 of that of my competition.....and they're up and running today instead of next week?

When I run the math, using Randy's list of things that are done in this 30K maintenance/tuneup, it adds up.....and actually, it's not over priced! If I purchase the supplies I need to do the parts of this I can do easily in a day, and leave out the stuff that I just am not well equipped to handle....or just don't really know how to go about it.....then I can save a bundle!

Do I believe that all the items on the list are required....NO, I DO NOT! BUT - What if I'm wrong? Yah, I have a very strong mechanical background....but it's for all intensive purposes, out of date when it comes to the newer vehicles. I would like to think that I am knowledgeable enough to handle most things....but am I? Gheez....I used to have my own line bore, cylinder bore, and head planning equipment.....but does that give me the knowledge I need to determine whether or not my new truck should have it's brake system flushed at 30K....NO IT DOESN'T!

That is one of the reasons I am here...on this forum....to find out what's different from 'what I know'! I thing I have learned here, and believe me, I've done the research to verify....if Randy suggests that something 'should' be done/handled a certain way, I better take notice!

When my truck hits the 30K milestone, whether I believe it necessary or not, I WILL be seeking his advise so that I can continue to enjoy the performance and reliability I have enjoyed up to that point! Hopefully, he supplies me with a 'must do' list that fits well with my knowledge and garage capabilities....so I can do it for under $1K.
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well, I myself will be doing at least a 7600 mile trip next month, when i get back home, i will be right at 30,000 miles, i know the tranny & differential fluid will be due for a complete flush & a brake system flush would be a good idea.
I just don't know what the product name will be, my service adviser mentioned royal purple as a good product, he mentioned that when away from other people,.
the dealership is no longer using Mobile oil for some reason, their bulk oil comes from Valvoline i believe
I just have to decide what to use, its almost Eeny, meeny, miny, moe at this time
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Wow...7600mi in a month! Is that work related...or a holiday?
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I'm sort of retired,I work to stay alert, sort of, i'm going to be 67 in august
I have a family reunion to attend, August 1st, its my families 100th
in Connecticut, then i will be going north into Ontario Canada, Toronto & possibly Sudbury, then take a more northern route back home
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If your more northern route home puts you on the Trans Canada Highway (#1) through Manitoba, then let me know and I would be honored to meet you and see that awesome truck up close!
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Pheeew! I am soooo glad I didn't make that list. The last thing I wanted to be known as is 'Overpriced'!

Although I am not one to spend a G note on a 30K maintenance/tuneup, there are many people out there that should! Especially after looking at Randy's list of 'What's included'....or at least what 'should' be included, there is actually a lot of work involved, and less equipped you are (tools, specialty equipment) the longer and more difficult it will be. Don't believe me....then go ahead, flush your entire brake system armed with nothing more than a few cans of brake fluid, a hose, a friend, and a 12 of beer; take photos that include the face of a clock....or calendar.....which ever is most appropriate.

I am as guilty as the next 'back yard mechanic' for criticizing the service shops, especially for the cost involved, but I can guarantee you, that I will be one of the last 'back yard mechanics' to flush my brake system, power steering or balance my tires! Guess that makes me a hypocrite!

I work in the electronic field, and as such have made sizable investments into specialized testing equipment, and similar investments into training of both the systems, and the advanced use of the test equipment. This allows me to accomplish certain tasks in minutes, where my competitors sometimes need hours or even days to accomplish the same task. Should I be charging ONLY for the actual time i spent....at the same hourly rate as my competitor?.....or is it justifiable for me to charge as much as 10X the hourly rate, when the final cost to the customer is 3/4 or even 1/2 of that of my competition.....and they're up and running today instead of next week?

When I run the math, using Randy's list of things that are done in this 30K maintenance/tuneup, it adds up.....and actually, it's not over priced! If I purchase the supplies I need to do the parts of this I can do easily in a day, and leave out the stuff that I just am not well equipped to handle....or just don't really know how to go about it.....then I can save a bundle!

Do I believe that all the items on the list are required....NO, I DO NOT! BUT - What if I'm wrong? Yah, I have a very strong mechanical background....but it's for all intensive purposes, out of date when it comes to the newer vehicles. I would like to think that I am knowledgeable enough to handle most things....but am I? Gheez....I used to have my own line bore, cylinder bore, and head planning equipment.....but does that give me the knowledge I need to determine whether or not my new truck should have it's brake system flushed at 30K....NO IT DOESN'T!

That is one of the reasons I am here...on this forum....to find out what's different from 'what I know'! I thing I have learned here, and believe me, I've done the research to verify....if Randy suggests that something 'should' be done/handled a certain way, I better take notice!

When my truck hits the 30K milestone, whether I believe it necessary or not, I WILL be seeking his advise so that I can continue to enjoy the performance and reliability I have enjoyed up to that point! Hopefully, he supplies me with a 'must do' list that fits well with my knowledge and garage capabilities....so I can do it for under $1K.
Very nicely done. Great points.
Although I don't like paying that kind of money either, if it buys me piece of mind that I kept within my trucks warranty and it was completed by a certified Chrysler tech and not some 18 yr old at Jiffy Lube fresh out of high school automotive class, then the $1,000 it is! While I am a know-it-all, I am just to lazy....ok, that wasn't true, I don't know what spark plugs to put in my diesel!
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